No Im not a troll. I felt the need to chime in because that is part of what a forum is based on. If people did not chime in, there wouldn't be an FChat would there? I know some about this situation and when I read some of the posts I immediately recognized the context of the messages. Also, I recieved a phone call from a guy names Tony Orange, who said he used to be employed by Gustan Cho, and he told me Gustan asked him to get on here and dog Piero and his name, and that he would do the same. By creating masked new accounts. I waited for a while to see if it happened, I believe it did. Im sorry that you don't appreciate what I say because you don't know me, but feel free to PM me and we can chat on the phone tonight so you will understand my position in this. If any of you want to talk about this PM me and we will figure out what exactly is going on here.
I don't know what Gustan Cho's username is, I haven't seen any matches to his old usernames, which I believe were banned. I do know after a year of Gustan always being in the middle of **** storms and attacking FerrariChat.com and me we had enough of him. Everyone gets in bad deals now and then, but to constantly be in the middle of things is just too much. Where are all the Gustan fans now?
I realize that Wells Fargo is foreclosing on this Navarro's home. You talk about karma, but you choose to hide behind a wall and not make yourself known, and then put down the others that do not agree with you. You are a phoney. Make yourself known. Explain with fact why the others are wrong about this Piero Navarro. If you are his supporter, do it in a legitimate way. All you do is make excuses about why you should not identify yourself. You are ridiculous, do you really believe anyone will care or believe anything you say under these circumstances? Are you able to comprehend that unless you identify yourself and provide facts, you do nothing to help your friend Navarro, and truthfully, you continue to make yourself look really silly. But then you would not care, because you hide behind secrecy. Give me a break, no one is that stupid to think that with your approach you will convince anyone of your position. Oh, and yes to your first sentece, I have been on this site long enough to know that many people appreciate my confirmation of their posts. As I appreciate their confirmation of mine. Your words: "So know it comes full circle my higher post count having, more well known via the internet friend. (That counts for a lot in life, let me tell you". First, what does this sentence mean, I do not understand the language, second, how you possibly make any reference to life and karma when you refuse to identify yourself? You throw stones from the shadows, and you think that makes your words valid? Or more accurate or honest then anyone else posting on this thread? Like I said, you may be correct about Navarro (please remember these last six words), but your approach leaves much to the imagination that you are nothing but a phoney. Until you come clean and identify yourself, you, whomever you are in reality, are a troll with nothing intelligent to say. Identify yourself, and then prove why you are correct. Only then will anything you say have meaning. ONLY then will you change anyone's mind about this Piero Navarro. I would guess that at the moment most here think you are a looney tune. It is you that would be responsible for that image, no one else is to blame for your arrogance and immature approach to this thread. Stop with the insults, provide fact. If you can not support your words, you should just accept you are a troll with nothing meaningful to say. And just stop. Thank you.
Lets see - 20 whole posts, 6 on this thread. Calling people out. Accusing them of fake screen names. No Profile. Unwilling to identify yourself. Taking an offensive, nasty stance against RP (who we all know and respect). Yeah, color it anyway you want. If it smells like a troll, posts like a troll, and acts like a troll -- I'm calling it a troll. Now where ARE those FChat police??? Scottie
Exxile20 Judging, by your previous posts your first name is Edward and you are indeed not Piero. I didn't write any of this and your claims or assumptions that I did it, are not much better than the once against Piero, you try to defend here. I am sure you are a great guy and your are just looking out for a friend. In the end your well meant intentions, might only cause people you accuse here to participate. AND since you are claiming it is me, you also encourage the person behind curious george to post more, because that person doesn't have to deal with the results of your blame, or Piero's anger. YOU are the guy who makes this threat popular right now! Hendrik
I've been looking for you Hendrik! I was hoping you would contact me directly. We know each other, do you remember me? If you don't you will if we talk. So seeing that you are here with your own unique S/N I assume Gustan is up to his old stuff putting other peoples names where he wants. We should talk very soon..... in light of whats going on PM me if you would like to chat.
who all has been contacted by Gustan to smear Piero? I'm not saying Piero hasn't been having a rough time, but all of this does seem composed by Gustan because of the legal battle between Gustan and Piero. Like many in this economy Gustan has had problems: http://indianatradesecretslaw.blogspot.com/2010/03/receiverships-in-news.html Everyone knows Gustan had many cars getting worked on with Piero, there are many posts about that. Things go south for Gustan and the cars ownership is at risk and under current legal battles? Maybe some other legal battles between Piero and Gustan? Luckily this time around it isn't just friends back stabbing each other, playing death pranks, throwing others under the bus, etc. This time it will all be publically documented in the courts for us to know the truth.
Oh Hendrik, did you just happen to browse this section and find your name? Or are you and Gustan smearing Piero and once your name was mentioned you made a new screen name to exonerate your self. Its odd that you not being involved some how got wind of a thread somewhere far out in internet land, that put you being involved with something. I mean come on guys, if you aren't doing this to smear his name someone state that he "screwed you" or "scammed" you AS A FACT. Make sure its known that its factual and we know who you are. Prove it. I've talked to Rob Lay, and other members about my side. I've substantiated what I've said to the best of my ability online. Now you do the same.
You have substantiated didley. You have submitted on only insults. NOTHING to prove your position. You go public and insult everyone, then you talk about öther members" on your side which I have a feeling is..umm not accurate, then then you incredibly say this: ""I mean come on guys, if you aren't doing this to smear his name someone state that he "screwed you" or "scammed" you AS A FACT. Make sure its known that its factual and we know who you are. Prove it"" You are asking others to "prove it", yet when I asked you to "prove it" all you could do is insult me? I think maybe you are Navarro, and maybe you have helped sway me to believe this Piero Navarro really is the crook everyone else seems to think he is. I would have to assume, you do not respond to "prove it" because you can't. Your excuses for not going public with your identity are BS. So YOU prove it or shut up and stop insulting everyone that does not see your point. If you are Navarro's friend, if I were him you should now be my enemy as you have done more harm than good. And I assume YOU just happened to browse this section and find your name? Excuse me, Navarro's name?
RP, As I've told you in the PM's I do not care to speak to you. You've made it clear until I've given YOU enough information, Im a ghost. That's fine. Move on. The people accusing and contributing to this thread are doing harm to someones name, business, and family. SHOW ME WHERE YOU ASK THEM TO PROVE THEIR POINT? Where do you ride them about proving their complaints about Piero? Until you do that, I see you as a biased blowhard, that is probably talking to the same people smearing the **** on the wall. I have talked to Rob. I have talked to other members. Im NOT speaking with you, you are of no importance to this situation. In your PM's you tell me how many people know you and how great you are blah blah blah, but in the words of members here at FChat in reference to you, you "act like an out of work writer that barely graduated from a community college". So yes, knowing what others think of you, I can see how putting my personal info and profile out there benefits one. Thanks! LOL Rob, If you need any other information, please let me know. I would like an email for you PM'd if possible, as I have someone who is not on FChat that would like to send you some interesting documents in reference to the person(s) we discussed earlier.
Just great, another one of your anal posts where you offer no facts, only insults. BTW, your last PM, deleted as I said. I really hate rectal based compositions. The difference between you and the other posts, is they stuck with the subject of Piero Navarro. They did not insult anyone else. You on the other hand decided to assume that those that spoke out negatively about Navarro were someone else in disguise, so you insulted them. No facts, just insults. That is why it is you that needs to come clean and explain who you are. And, prove that your comments are correct. The ball is in your court, but you keep missing the basket. It is you that is in disguise. You are the phoney. I really do not care what you think, but until you stop being a ghost, and you prove your position with facts, you are a nobody. A troll. Your references to Rob mean nothing. That does not prove your position nor give you credibility. Knowing Rob, he would take the high road, and a neutral position assuming no one was misusing this website. I have not noticed Rob coming online and defending you. If he does, great, until then, you have no credibility. I never said I believed anyone else in this thread, in fact, there are some rather weak stories here. The original thread sounded strange to me. But no one, no one, acted as anal as you have, and it sure makes me wonder how you know so much about Navarro's relationship with other people. I think that is why many/most here assume you are Navarro. I keep telling you to no avail, you could very well be the one that is correct about Navarro. But your approach, your insults, really tell another story. You have no credibility. You only know how to insult. That is the basis of all of your childish posts, insults. No facts, just insults. Once again, stop insulting, identify yourself and just prove your point. What anyone else thinks of me is not at all relevant to your story. Do not use that as another one of your shallow excuses for remaining a ghost. If you were as active as I am on FChat, you will not please everybody. In your case, with such few posts, you have already managed to be considered a troll. You just go in circles. You are a waste of time, very tiring. And boring. The conclusion I would reach of this thread, is that there is someone named Piero Navarro in Palm Beach County that may or may not be legitimate, which is enough to avoid or take extra precaution if dealing with his enterprise. Same question, how did you accidently end up on this thread? Very coincidental.
It looks like exxile20 might be perryc07, who was banned a year back for drama between Gustan and Piero and others too. Same actors, different play, imagine that. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/member.php?do=getinfo&u=65041
to let the clowns and drama queens get away with any more stuff? heck no, enough of hiding and covering up their ****, it is going to be wide open for everyone to see.
one of many, where are the others? death hoaxes, etc. I think there were many threads since that one was closed, because it was early on they went on a campaign writing the Ferrari Owners site and getting a form or edited response. We talked to FNA legal directly and all these guys were full of ****, heck the one that led it turned out not to even be a Ferrari owner and then we all know about Gus now.
