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  1. wbaeumer

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    Holding this cars means also that you have to spend a lot of money to keep them in good condition. So what would you do when your family don`t want that -because they either do not have the cash or do not want to spend it or simply because they have other interests- and want to sell the collection? Huge problem in the USA and we are now in the situation that we have a generic change to this (50s/60s) cars.
     
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  2. GIOTTO

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    Yes, great film. Can't find it anywhere.
     
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  3. Christian.Fr

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    Friday must be a nice day?
    Hope everyone in good conditions.
     
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  5. Christian.Fr

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    Depend in which moment was taken?
    2016/2018???

    Hope tomorrow the court of justice won t become a show as the last time...
     
  6. amenasce

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    Long time ago
     
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  7. Christian.Fr

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    I can tell you with precision which cars are in Más du Clos actually. But Friday we will know probably more. So keep your attention with newspapers.

    One thing is sur, will never see a foundation Mas du Clos.
     
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  8. nschots

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    So what´s news today?
     
  9. Christian.Fr

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    The Bardinon trial have been postponed to December 13th.

    Seems to be Patrick s lawyer who made the demand
     
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  12. amenasce

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    Quelle triste histoire.
     
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  13. Christian.Fr

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    C est long d'être fini, à mon avis

    In english:
    Monopoly game, you lost 15k€, back to jail.
     
  14. Terra

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    So with the prison sentence suspended, he actually won't be required to serve any actual prison time?

    Has this same court also ruled (i.e. as per a plea agreement) that Patrick must, in addition, legally return 16M € to Anne and Jean-François?
     
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  15. Terra

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    I meant to say the court also ruled that Patrick must legally return 16M € to Jean-François AND 16M € to Anne.
     
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  16. miurasv

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    5573GT was sold for 38M Euros not 48M Euros so the split between the 3 Bardinon siblings would have been 12.667M not 16M Euros?
     
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  17. Christian.Fr

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    Normaly I will agree with you Terra, but the story must to go ahead. So at this time it too early for close this case.
     
  18. nerofer

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    It's not a judgement, not yet: only what le Procureur de la République, which represents the State and "the greater good" of the french population if you like, has requested; but the lawyers of P.B have requested "la relaxe", meaning no punishment whatsoever.
    Court decision, March 7th. Then, if my fading memories are not wrong, the parties would have ten days to appeal, should one wished to do so.

    Rgds
     
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  19. Christian.Fr

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    The best way to avoid a bigger scandal would be to find an arrangement faster between the 3 parts.

    Let's imagine that Patrick is judging for car theft (finally and be honest) judging him for distributing the property in three parts was made to not send him to jail more time.

    In short, the biggest scandal
    Would be a return of the GTO, and very embarrassed owner.
     
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    thank you for this update
     
  22. amenasce

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    How much would the Bardinon 64 GTO be worth? SOld for 36m Eur in 2014. Would it be worth 40m now? 50m?
     
  23. Christian.Fr

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    No one was expecting this decision...this is a cold shower.

    In my opinion this decision is inaccurate on the legal level.

    Let's wait and see what the appellate courts say.
     
  24. Ed Niles

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    Here we have a few shots at Mas du Clos from 1971. Pierre is showing the way in the 250TR 0742TR with Pourret as a passenger. I include the shot of the Dino 1578 as it illustrates the necessity for knowing how to unwind exiting a turn. Finally one of me (brown shirt) telling lies to Pierre.
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  25. Christian.Fr

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    Mr Niles what is your opinion about the Bardinon affairs? Do you think there s a legal issue for brothers?

    Thanks for sharing your pictures
     

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