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Which would you give up first, pork or beef?

  1. Pig

  2. Cow

  3. both, I'm a veggie

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  1. Nurburgringer

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    #1 Nurburgringer, Sep 14, 2010
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    A question I like to ask my foodie friends for fun is "if for some reason you had to give up eating one animal for the rest of your life, which would you chose: Pig or Cow?"

    Last weekend I took a hog butchering class at a local dry-curing company http://www.bolzanomeats.com/ and have had pork on the brain.
    Made schnitzel Sunday night for a bunch of friends from the ~6 lb loin and last night sauteed the liver with mushrooms and onions in oyster sauce, so was curious what you guys would choose.

    At our wedding 1 month ago we served a selection of locally cured pork and wisconsin cheeses during cocktail hour then grilled hanger steak for dinner so covered both bases.

    BTW - this is a very tough question for me, but in the end have to vote pig mainly because I don't think life would be worth living without sausage.

    Persuasive arguments can be made for either:

    Cow: steaks, carpaccio, cheezesteaks, BBQ ribs and brisket, burgers, jerky, fat, veal, liver, soup/stock, goulash/stews, chili, roast beef, chicken fried, corned, offal

    Pig: bacon, sausages, prosciutto/jamón/other cured cuts, spanferkel, schnitzel, mett, fat, cold cuts, BBQ, hocks/haxe, ribs, jowls/cheeks, roast, unsmoked belly, smoked/baked ham, offal

    what say you?
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  2. konatown

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    #2 konatown, Sep 14, 2010
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    I clicked the wrong answer.

    This is the one hypothetical that I really enjoy.

    But I've decided that I would give up beef no problems.

    I cannot do with out pork sausages, cured and smoked meats, pork bbq, pork tenderloin, and especially pork belly.

    Jamón Iberico. Hell even Jamón Serrano is out of this world. And then you've got the whole range of Italian Salumi.

    My mouth is watering now.
     
  3. Nurburgringer

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    lol, yeah I just realized that it might have been clearer for the vote to be for the one you'd keep!

    Results should roughly follow location I'd bet. Texans and Midwesterners should tend to favor beef, with south/east coaster more porky.
     
  4. UroTrash

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    I could choose between my 4 children....but I could not possibly choose between cow and pig.
     
  5. Nurburgringer

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    #5 Nurburgringer, Sep 14, 2010
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    I hear you. I still dream about the frshly sliced J.S. in a little outdoor market in Portugal.... but then there's the heavenly bulgogi I had in Tokyo, or the perfect cheese burgers at Kopp's custard stand.... yeah, seriously my mouth is now watering too!

    Photo below of the curing room at Bolzano's (no affiliation BTW, just a big fan) where the hams cure for 4-8 months.
    Also a pack of their Pancetta I picked up as a gift for my italian mechanic, Lorenzo (and better give to him soon or I won't be able to resist tearing into myself!)
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  6. Nurburgringer

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    lol!
    ok, gun to your head. CHOOSE OR DIE!
     
  7. NeuroBeaker

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    Easy choice, I don't eat a great deal of pig anyway... I'd give that up. :)

    There's a lot I would give up before I stop eating cows. :eek:

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  8. Nurburgringer

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    even haggis?!
    lol

    adjusting for Kona's hanging chad we're at 5-2 so pigs everywhere are rejoicing for now!
     
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    Life without steak seems hollow and meaningless. I love me some pulled pork, but nothing compares to a great steak.
     
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    I'd have to argue a great slab of pork belly.

    My logic behind the decision is that I eat good and okay tasting beef most of the time I consume beef and only rarely get the prime taste and texture out of a cow, where as I often eat great tasting pork with a huge variety of applications and textures. Pork is every day tasty where as beef is a one day a week experience.
     
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    Hmmm... that's a close one - but, yes, I would have to give up haggis before steak. :D

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
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    Take it from someone who's been there; there's more to the pig than meets the eye. Give up pig and say good bye to frosted mini wheats, marshmallows, and refried beans at Chipotle.
     
  13. Jedi

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    As a Jew, my choice was pretty easy :)

    However, I've often said that if I EVER had to "grow my own meat" I'd turn
    vegetarian in a HEART BEAT!

    Jedi
     
  14. tatcat

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    haggis comes from sheep. pigs are easier to raise than steers and tastier
     
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    Is that true?

    I'll never forgive Andrew.
     
  16. NeuroBeaker

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    Jedi, why do Jews abstain from eating pigs? I've heard the explanation that they are deemed to be unclean animals but I'm not sure why/how this was determined to be so.


    Yes. :)

    Oh, I knew haggis was sheep-derived, I just thought we were branching out our hypothetical selection to ascertain the relative importance of steak. :eek:

    All the best,
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    #18 Jedi, Sep 14, 2010
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    As a Jewish friend says, we don't eat pork for the same reason we don't eat Paris Hilton - it's unclean :D:D




    Seriously, it's just one of the many dietary laws from Leviticus - Jews are only supposed to
    eat meat of animals that chew their cud and have split hooves. (Zillions of other food rules
    as well - I don't follow ANY of them really). Pigs have split footsies but don't chew cud.

    I do eat pork actually - bacon in burgers and with eggs in restaurants. We just abstain
    from COOKING pork in the house as a purely symbolic thing. And for the same symbolic reason,
    we don't do pork chops, ham, pork roast, etc.

    But for the sake of education for anyone interested: http://www.jewfaq.org/kashrut.htm

    JewFaq is a great site for basics on all things Jewish.

    Jedi
     
  19. NeuroBeaker

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    Actually, when prepared well in a restaurant, haggis is very tender and flavourful. :)

    The best haggis I've ever had was prepared by a friend's dad and he had literally spent 4 days slow-cooking it.

    LOL! :D

    Thanks Jedi. :)

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
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    Interesting site.

    It answered a question i had, why a Kosher hotdog commercial (Hebrew National, IIRC)indicated they only use the front half of a cow:

     
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    I checked the website, but I still don't understand. Why won't my Jewish friend eat when I make turkey burgers with cheese on them? Turkeys don't lactate.
     
  22. NeuroBeaker

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    I found this on there:


    I also found the section on utensils pretty interesting - never knew any of that.

    All the best,
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    Was the turkey kosher; slaughtered according to the rules?
     
  24. Jedi

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    That's one of the age-old paradoxes for "thinking" orthodox Jews. The rabbinical answer
    (from where else - the Talmud!) is that since you didn't SEE the turkey or chicken get
    made into the patty you can't claim BEFORE GOD that you are CERTAIN there is no
    beef in it, so therefore NO meat can mix with dairy - it's a "just to be on the safe side" argument.

    Nevermind the fact that a McDonald's burger has beef from cows in South America, and
    the cheese comes from Wisconsin - hence a physical impossiblity that the "meat of the
    calf is seethed in its mother's milk"....

    It's the same thing with grain at Passover - we aren't supposed to eat rice or peanuts
    or anything like that, simply because it's POSSIBLE it was in contact with wheat at some
    point...

    There's really nothing even remotely rational about Jewish dietary laws. I'm just glad
    I'm not Orthodox and have to keep Kosher.... would drive me NUTS!!

    Jedi
     
  25. Jedi

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    It's really not related to that - it's "meat with dairy" in play here. See my previous post.

    Jedi
     

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