Pista Allocation

Don't know about that. Yes we pay a lot for our cars government taxes but the 488 price came in lower than the 458 price with a few extras also included.

 

Got to say markets are so different everywhere.

Know a person zero Ferraris. Orders a 488 yet to be delivered. Bought a Portofino yet to be delivered and was given allocation for a PISTA deposit paid.

 

I am having second thoughts on the Pista. If the car comes in 2020 I don't think I will proceed as too long to wait and the 488 replacement will be upon us. Thoughts?

 

That will always be the case for as long as I can recall. You can do both! [emoji13]

 

The replacement only matters if you can get an early allocation

 

Thats true however the replacement wont be limited and there should not be any allocations issues

 

I'm with you on this Shack....have already become much less motivated due to all the jerking around over allocation and then hearing ridiculous talk of having to buy cars you don't want. I'm over it. I may just shift my sight onto the new car and hold what I have. The way I'm thinking Pista would need to be made available to me early to mid next year at the very latest or forget it. I can get a 2rs by early to mid next year and I wouldn't be surprised if it's found to be a better driving car anyway. Probably depreciate less too. And at least with Porsche everything works properly even though it may not look or sound as good.

 

I understand the frustration, but I’m keeping focused on trying to get one. For me, the car is pretty much perfect. I’ve spoken with my dealer many times and I think the key is to be a little patient. I’m never buying a Lusso (or any other car) for the right to buy a Pista. Still, I’m fairly confident that those in strong standing with their dealer, and with a qualifying buying history, will get a car. I suppose it depends on the market you’re in but I’m fairly certain they’ll blow through the small number of candidates willing to buy a Lusso by early summer. Also, for me, I would prefer a later car not an early one. If none of this happens then I’ll be very happy with my 488 GTB.

 

Yes it is frustrating. I am really happy with my 488 GTB, but would love a Pista. However, having missed out on the first allocation I guess the earliest I might get one would be in 2020.

I also have a 2019 allocation for an 812, so need to decide whether to take that, hang on instead for a Pista, or even wait for the 488 replacement.

Not a terrible decision to have to make, but still difficult!

 

I am just about to take delivery of the 488GTB and was happy to use it for the next year until I could get a Pista. Seems like I wont see the Pista in 2019. 2020 is just too far away to commit to a known car when all the competition will release their variants over the same period with (I assume) far less headache getting one.

 

Spot on !!

 

I agree, very frustrating. But, for me, the Pista is a game changer to hold and keep. If I’m fortunate to get an allocation I’m willing to be patient. My 488 GTB is incredible in the meantime.

 

Good to know you are happy with 488GTB. I will get to drive mine soon

 

Yes that is the key! Patience is hard to come by. No other cars really compare.

 

Agree with this 100%... I was offered 2020 Pista in return for lusso and I turned it down on the exact same logic. I love ferrari, but the competition is so good these days. Even if I preferred the Pista over a faster 750 LT or Performante successor, I assume there would be much less hassle in getting an allocation at that point as other Ferrari customers might not.

 

For me, “when” isn’t a major factor. My logic has little to do with having a special series car urge satisfied as soon as possible. Even if the Pista didn’t exist I would have zero interest in the competition. I’m all about Ferrari. As for the Pista specifically, the others don’t even hold a candle next to it. I suppose one may go faster or one may have more this or more that. All I know is that the Pista is A) a Ferrari (the others arent) and B) it looks absolutely incredible. I don’t mind waiting 18 months or so for it.

 

Question ... is anyone on here getting a Pista allocation without having to buy a Lusso?

 

Yes.

 

My point is the replacements lands in 2020 even if a new to the brand customer gets allocation it could be 2022 or so isn't that far out as a consideration ?
Again my perspective is here in the USA I believe certain parts of Europe and middle east it's much easier for new customers to get cars

 

+1

 

Please elaborate ... how?

 

I believe that even those of us who have been asked to buy the Lusso will still have a good shot at getting a Pista even if we decline. We just won't have one guaranteed and we will get the very last of the allocations. The simple reason is that, despite it being a great car, not very many people want to buy a Lusso at MSRP. Also, some clients (incl. non-VIPs) are also worth a lot to Ferrari whether or not they buy a lusso. I am not saying I am in that group but surely someone must be.

 

Yes, because we have bought multiple cars from our local dealer and the Pista is not a limited production car and Ferrari has substantially increased production too.

People are misinterpreting the Pista. You have to think of it as a 488.5 GTB (or a 488.2 GTB for you Porsche owners). Competitors have released cars that have exceeded the current 488 GTB performance at similar or lower prices. The Pista is Ferrari's response/update, it's not a car just for their "good" clients, or whatever BS your dealer says. It will not hold value like a 458 Speciale, as it's not a last of breed either.

 

+1 for no Lusso. UK dealer.

I have an 812 on order, and recently bought a 458 (not from dealer). The Lusso question never came up. Seems a region/dealer thing.

 

Pista is not a serial numbered car but the supply will be limited to less than what the demand is. That's why Ferrari allocates in two rounds -- to gauge the total demand while taking orders/ delivering the first round, so it can explicitly set the number of allocations in the second round to be its desired number (less than total demand). That's how Ferrari has always done special editions and that's what they said they would do this time. Not everyone who wants a Pista allocation will get one. That doesn't mean that you need to buy a lusso to get one, although if you do buy a lusso you should be guaranteed. Hypothetically if supply is, say, 60% of demand (I just made up that number), then you just need to be in the top 60% of clients who want a Pista. Ferrari's regional allocation is not so finetuned that it will be the exact same criteria to get to the top 60% in each region.