Pista Lowered on Novitec Springs

Looks perfect, the way these cars sit from factory is an absolute joke.

 

I agree the stock ride height is a bit high. I like the look of your, as it does not look too low. I saw a Pista at the dealer with Novitec springs that they had just installed. Looked too low to me, and DEFINITELY needed spacers. I'll have to ask the tech if they can find a happy medium.

 

Do you have front lifter on your car?

 

FordGtDriver...on your 488 or Pista, when you swapped in the Novitec was the stock perch collar settings used? or did you move the collars down farther on the shock?

My 488GTB is at the dealer now and I am trying to get your ride height look...I do not want to go too low due to roads and tracking the car some at Sebring.

 

Crude way to measure similar results is to get hub center to fender height on level ground -- eliminates effect of wheel diameter and tires, but won't cover geometry differences in front suspension.

 

Best way is to measure from specified point on chassis frame.

ive noticed on various forums for quick and dirty Ref guys measure from fender to ground. Yes better is fender to hub center and I prefer this for quick comparison if I can’t get to chassis frame points on the measured level surface.

I will have my car back tomorrow most likely and will post height and alignment specs. For some odd reason a lot of guys won’t share lowering measurement specs and alignment specs...really odd behaviors to me, being a real car guy and sharing info. I appreciate those that have shared what they have.

 

Hi bro. I just fitted the novitec springs to my pista. Could I ask you if you have measurements from rim to fender on all four corners as a starting point for me to set up as I like your height and you’ve already set up corner weights which I’ll get to.
Thanks mate

 

Just a heads up for Pista owners to check their front left and right wheel arch liners. My pista has NOT been lowered and has been tracked several times. Due to the soft spring rate the wheels have compressed fully into the wheel arch during aggressive track driving and has started to destroy the wheel arch liner. See attached pics.

I’ve been told that this is a common issue in Europe where more pista’s are tracked vs the cars and coffee pista’s here in the US.

I’ve spoken to Ferrari Italia about this as my local Ferrari service center here in LA suggested that this happened not because of the springs of the pista but because I lowered the car and/or used oversize wheels. That is not the case. They said they have never seen this before and it would not be covered under warranty, thus the call to Ferrari. It’s due to driving the car hard at the track for sure.

Just wanted to make folks aware of this so you can check your wheel arch liners.

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I went 15mm spacers all around but changing the fronts to 10mm as they look too aggressive. Novitec springs installed but haven’t set up corner weights yet. The fronts are too high and must be adjusted down which I’ll do this week. Handling feels greatly improved.

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I am betting that this is from road debris vs. the tires compressing into the liner.

 

What do your tires look like that hit the fender liners? I've had tires hit and rub liners before in other cars...my Porsches and they would show on the tire and the liner would have oblong wear marks. Possibly something you ran over flew up and hit the liner and cracked it.

 

You will want to see what the factory rake is between from and rear and adjust the car lower but keep the factory rake angle. This is until you do track events and adjust alignment settings further based off feel of handling and tire temps and wear. Then you can play with adjusting the factory rake angle to fine tune.

Does the Pista have adjustable sway bars?

As far as going with 15mm spacers on all corners this is actually a good choice as it keep the geometry in check. After you lower the front a little and get the factory rake angle back I bet 15mm on front will be fine. Also depends on how much negative camber in front you are running. Somewhere in the -1.5 range will be good and the 15mm spacers will help with how the tire sits in the fender well.

 

Tires are fine. It makes sense what you said about debris but that would have to be one serious piece of debris and it would show damage else where such as the front splitter. No other damage.


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Yeah makes sense. But that would have to be some serious road debris and large. Which would mean there would be other damage to the car, such as the front splitter, and there isn’t. Plus the road debris would be pushed backwards not upwards to the wheel arch.


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If you were tracking it could he rubber from other cars. Happens to our challenge cars all the time.

 

Yeah it’s possible. But I’ve tracked other brands such as Porsche and McLaren and that never happened. Will see what Ferrari say.


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Rubbing is an issue. It is common on Pistas with stock suspension at stock height. You can't go through Fuchsröhre at full til without serious liner rub.

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I guess I never pushed mine that hard to know.

 

any issues with getting a low profile jack under those cars?

 

No. And if there is, just back the rear wheel on to a big of 2" thick wood before inserting the jack.

 

I doubt Ferrari or any other manufacturer identify the liners as a wear item due to track use. Doesn’t happen with Porsche or McLaren unless you put on oversize wheels and/or tires and/or adjust the OEM suspension set up.

The fact that the pista (which by the name alone means track) has such soft springs and causes the wheels to compress that much (even with OEM height ride) and rub the liners is a design/set up flaw and thus should be covered by warranty, especially as it’s a potential liability issue if a tire was to deflate upon contact with an exposed metal part due to the liner deterioration.

I’ll let you know if Ferrari exchange mine under warranty.


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No worries mate. Txt is always difficult to interpret. That’s **** they denied warranty on the liners. How much did they cost?


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