Pista or GTS

I’m sure that’s right but when i went across the Furka and other passes in Switzerland with both our Pista Spider and our GTS, a month apart, with the same friend driving a Pista I thought there was not too much in it. Pista is probably quicker in my hands but the GTS is stupid-fast too. And the GTS is more fun. Can’t quite believe I said that but I guess it’s the mix of engine sound, best-in-the-business downchanges and the sound accompanying them and the great handling. The car is big but the Pista ain’t exactly small in the alps either. I also drove our GTS around northern Italy - Siena, Florence, Portofino etc. - again with friends in other cars including Pista. For the Pista to pull away significantly requires quite a bit of ‘commitment’ over a road route and with even a little traffic it’s traffic-dependent not car-dependent I reckon.

Don’t get me wrong, objectively the Pista is the more precise driving tool but its added pace advantage over ground is less than the improvement in experience with the GTS for those who love sound and old-school driving in particular. Horses for courses and clearly nice to have both in the garage because they offer something different. Put it this way, my first drive of these cars, it was the GTS that gave me the biggest (pleasant) surprise.

 

I drove both and I am 100% agree with you

 

Greens on the new Tourings look pretty perfect. Porsche is making available a large selection of optional interiors just for the Touring. Crazy colors..lipstick red, bright blues....there will be many very 'interesting' Tourings.

 

Oh I love that green.. I picked Oak Green metallic, this looks awfully similar! Now its a toss up, love the cars and colours..

 

I LOVE Oak Green Metallic! One of most beautiful colors out there.

 

Ya me too.. I saw it on a 991 GT3 and it looked incredible!

 

This just made me laugh out loud - thank you. It’s been a rough day and I needed it.


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The extra 3 inches of wheelbase makes a notable difference...besides being heavier, it simply takes longer to rotate. Curiously, the Dodge Viper wheelbase is 9 inches shorter than the 812 family. And recent Porsche 911 family are 18 inches shorter on wheelbase than the 812, if Ferrari could find a way to reduce the 812 successor wheelbase by 8 inches it would be quite formidable in the twisties

 

For your classic muscle car pick up a Ford GT….these will be harder to find in a few years.

 

speciale and 812 GTS remains the best combo in my totally biased opinion lol

 

8 inches ?? 2 would be a miracle - Lets wait and see

 

That's what the RWS is there for in the front-mid engined Ferraris (compared to the rear-mid engined Ferraris). If Ferrari reduced the wheelbase by 8 inched, the cars would become undriveable clowns in faster corners; there is a reason that F1 cars have a wheelbase larger than 3 metres...

 

Long wheel base is more fun to drive. Takes more to upset the car, and you can slide the car lot safer. I think most people buy front v12 to cruise & have fun.

 

My bias would be
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My thoughts exactly. I find my 812 extremely nimble and I'm very confident could keep up with any Pista, F8 etc on any public road . The aforementioned criticism could be applied to the F12 but not the 812 due to the RWS.

 

that's the dream, a whole other level of awesomeness... lol.

 

I’ve got a SUPERFAST, and an inbound GTS..would imagine they are both very similar, in most respects.

 

Not really. In fact, they are very different.

A GTS is a GT in just about every way. It's soft riding, but with an unmistakable Ferrari steering feel. Almost Lusso levels of plushness.

The 812SF is much firmer and responsive. The 812 SF feels like a real sports car, which it is.

Totally different feeling cars.

 

You bastards are going to make me keep ‘em both, aren’t you?

 

I was thinking the SAME thing….smh.

 

To me both are GT's, both are comfortable and large. They are fast but not nimble. I will drive my GTS as often as possible and would do the same with the SF.

 

Are you implying that they have a different suspension setup? If so, to what extent? I haven't seen anything regarding this.

 

They share coils and struts, but they are programmed differently in the magneride. On top of that. The cars themselves are different. The GTS is a great spider, but it does flex a bit.

Just to sort of gjve an idea of how different cars can feel with different programming of the suspension. Think of a Maserati GranCabrio S and a GranCabrio MC. All components are the same, but the MC rides like being thrown down a flight of stairs co.pared to the S.

So yes, they are different, but it's in the suspension tuning not the hardware.

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Speedster and a tdf. Manual open and a v12 limited.