Pista pricing question...dealer sent my total today

those are the mandatory option that are included in the basic price....carbon fiber engine bay, lateral air vents, rear diffuser, front splitter and central tunnel....all those in carbon fiber they say included but actually are mandatory to be on every build. in italy for example the basic price of the car will be 260ish euro but with all those things the basic price starts from 296k euro

 

I agree 100%. If they have an 'internal policy' around mandatory spec/base price, then that should be signaled to the buyer way up front.
That sort of top coat skimming annoys the fek out of me.


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Is what it is.
Public company now

 

Not my post but does this help? www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/145996969

 

And yet they do it.
I seem to recall James knew...might have your Austin GM reach out.

 

I noticed that in your original post of your build sheet as I thought it was strange that you had optioned some CF that was to be included in the PPAC (like front flaps and side pods) but didn’t have some of the other items that are in it and wondered if you were getting double charged for these items. Plus double hit by the PPAC having titanium exhaust and you selected black exhaust so again paying twice.
Ferrari’s old system didn’t correct for doubles like my Speciale came standard with red stitching and horse on headrest but I was charged for Rosso stitching and Rosso horse because my order specified it even though it was included, I never got that money back.
I have not been told that PPAC is mandatory yet although I plan to include the items anyway except the interior door sill CF as that item to me just seems lost.
I know on a 450k vehicle that may seem petty but I just don’t enjoy being overly wasteful.
Honestly I thought the 350k base was going to include the PPAC based upon other markets pricing but at this point it is what it is and I am thankful to have the allocation.

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Agree with your sentiment. $450K retail too high for this car IMO. Add sales tax and that's getting pretty close to a category it is not. Amazing what the self hype has allowed.

 

This is actually quite standard in the car industry. The car is produced from the factory in a basic spec and usually with certain familiar option packs (cold weather gear for cold countries etc.) The importer should then decide what is suitable for its market to arrive at a ‘new’ basic spec. That should be then announced in that particular market as the basic spec accompanied with a price for that spec. Therefore you should never hear of the cost of the factory basic spec - it is irrelevant to you. It seems like Ferrari is giving too much information or FNE is communicating the wrong basic price (factory instead of US) in the press? If they have communicated the US price as the price including PPAC then all is good IMO. If they haven’t, I don’t know about the US but I think that is illegal in Europe.

Why would they want to make the car standard with PPAC in US but not from the factory? I would expect because of high tax markets. Ferrari/FNE obviously prefer that Pista comes with carbon as standard but doesn’t mandate that where the added tax is prohibitive.

 

PPAC is NOT standard in the US. You can order PPAC as an option or you can order each item included in PPAC individually and select what you want.

 

My build has ppac and all the carbon separately, am I going to charged twice?


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I would check with saleasman and have his answers in writing !

 

Ok sorry dumb question so are we saying the base price of the Pista (including the carbon package) is $350kUS? Or do you need to still add the carbon package ontop? Lucky enough to have an allocation yes, but Ferrari is definitely testing the pricing limits of these vehicles, impressive to say the least. Should a Pista be more expensive then a fully loaded 812?

 

Great point. Pista wirhnwell done options = 812.

Apples and oranges for sure but a dilemma.
Many high tier ferrari clients have passed on the Pista for lack of limited ed status and the relative pricing. So I’ve been told.

 

the prices are getting disproportionally high while production numbers are increasing.

 

350k doesn't include the cabon package or any options

 

I was told 349,050 was base before gas guzzler 1k and delivery prep 3750. Really difficult to spec this car below 450k. I feel like if you get one carbon exterior piece you have to spec all the carbon pieces with possible exception of engine bay otherwise it may not look right. I was told that the PPAC is not required so interested in hearing what your dealer says. Dealers are getting their information piece meal.

 

Try calling the dealer that would be the easiest thing


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In Europe, PPAC is mandatory (in France that increased the base price from EUR 298K to EUR 317K), so that the real base price for a Pista is about 5% higher than the 812 base price.
That was a step too far for me, but as long as many customers are willing to pay Ferrari has no reason to be shy.

 

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