Pista Spider Production Numbers - What have you heard?

between 1000 and 1200 vs 499

 

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take spider if they offered you! IMHO

 

Considering the allocation of today , they are the same of f12tdf, so 799.

 

799 ( not numbered )

 

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All this 799 number is pure speculation. The SA was limited, the 488 Pista Spider is not. They will build as many as they can work their capacity and this was confirmed in press releases. Regular 488 cars are essentially being shifted towards Pista, which is a Version 2.0 of the 488 to compete with all the other supercars out there recently introduced, which is why there's no production limit, just like Perf and 720S, it's 2 closest competitors.

Being offered a Pista Spider if you buy a Lusso is nothing special, in fact laughable. Treat dealer games like drugs, just say no!

 

With both Pista and Pista Spider being not numbered, the Pista Spider has no reason to be more exclusive than the Pista - in the end it may end in production split 50/50 just like between the regular GTB and Spider.
This 50/50 split is the "natural" (i.e. driven by objective demands) outcome, for Pista logically it should be less Spiders because this is a more questionable choice for an allegedly track oriented version. But it seems more people actually want the Spider because they believe it will be more exclusive

 

I ma not speculating . The only things that count right now are the allocations delivered to the Ferrari Dealer and all people know that they are the same number of the f12 tdf. All the rest is pure speculation .

 

Your 799 number for a Pista Spider is wrong, what part of no production limit is hard to decipher? It could be 200 or 1500+, all based on production capacity and consumer choice as stated. Feel free to post anything concrete to the contrary other than "my dealer said so".

Press releases say there is no production limit for Pista and Pista Spider, if it was limited, Ferrari would've made an official announcement instead of dealer hype.

 

Many Ferrari consumers are dating that their dealers Told them they have the same availbility of cars of f12tdf . This means that the average procutions of piata spider should be the same of tdf ( so around 800 pcs ) , another think to say is that this car is not available for everybody. This is my view, sorry ..

 

Ferrari have publicly stated it isn't limited artificially. It's limited by their ability to produce. Ferrari has publicly shown that they are ramping up production as a whole, likely to capture the increasing demand. Dealerships will always claim the cars are limited because that gives them leverage to sell you more things, and unlike a public company, there's no reprehension whatsoever for lying for them.

 

Ok so do you Maran that if a not consumer of ferrari ho tomorrow and asp for one they will sell it to him? The answer is not !

 

I agree with you. At the moment allocations for next year are the same as for TDF - as now reported from multiple dealers. The only question is if there will be another model year for 2021. My guess is no but until we see what comes out at Geneva we won’t really know.

As for numbering, why would Ferrari number this car when they don’t need to drive demand, they know they already have it. Committing to a number only benefits the customer at the cost of added complication and less flexibility for Ferrari.

I have mentioned a number of times before that previous logic with regard to production does not apply at the moment due to new regulations coming into force this year. I have just read a report from Reuters talking about a drop of 48% in September sales in Europe for the market-leading VW group, including 67% for Porsche and 60% for Audi - hopefully you can imagine how many billions of euros this represents in lost profit and can work out they would not voluntarily do this. This is unheard of in my 30 years in the motor industry. This is due to new WLTP testing rules for all vehicles coming into force in September and some brands not yet declaring their results for many models (because they are too damaging) and therefore not being allowed to sell. People are having to rush new model and engine programmes forward because of these changes and how they will affect legislation that manufacturers previously thought they could meet.

I don’t know the specifics for Ferrari but I have a suspicion that they either don’t know if 488 can continue into 2021 MY or they do know - and it can’t.

 

It is hard to understand what you are typing, but if my hunch is correct: no a brand new customer with no history wouldn't be able to walk in and order a Pista, unless they play the dealer game and order a Lusso or Portofino.

Call any dealer and they have enough of a customer base for a Pista already from prior sales. A dealer has a vested interest in making a Pista seem limited, they will gradually go down their list of customers as allocations become available to them while also trying to manage trade-in inventory.

 

I am sorry but i have some problem with my mobile but IMHO i think that the stocks of these cars are limited ( not numbered but limited ) . My guess is 2800 for coupe and less of 1000 for spider. We will see guys!

 

pista is limited to existing good customers. spider is limited to better customers who are current portofino and lusso owners. dealers are getting about the same number of spiders as TDF's, only about 1/3 the number of pista coupes

 

Or you could wait 12 months and the secondary market will be littered with them.

 

for much more than MSRP.

 

1/3 of pista coupe.
Almost same number as tdf allocation.
I would guess 1000.
They prefer customers with v12 lusso history for sure.

 

you have to remember that in the 3000+ unit sale increase target, they are projecting flat-ish growth in established markets and the bulk of the new growth in new markets with little previous penetration. Thus your dealer may receive the same, may receive less, may receive more, but the pie is a different size this time.

 

With nothing but delivery miles, dealer mules need feeding.

 

My dealer confirmed that they are getting a total of 8 Pista spiders and 25 Pista coupes for what ever that is worth. That’s a 4-1 difference in production numbers which seems to correlate with the production ratios of the Speciale. So I’m not sure why some are now speculating that there would be a 50/50 split but that would be great news for people that are further up the list on the Pista Spider list.