The lussos to pista deal is only on the coupe not spider
I suspect that over time dealers will be able to swap some Pista allocations for Pista Spiders. They initially got the Pista allocations when the Pista spider was not existing, then they got the Pista spider allocations with the assumption that the Pista production numbers will not change. However if the demand is higher than initially expected by Ferrari for the Pista spider, I am not sure I understand why they should stick to their initial forecast. Since the Pista spider will be more expensive and make more money for them, adapting is the sensible choice to serve the shareholders (which is currently the highest priority). And supporting the demand for the Pista spider by making it appear more exclusive could be a good marketing trick...
Porsche GT2 RS was supposedly not a limited production car; good luck getting one from any dealer. The total number manufactured makes it a Limited Production car no matter how you look at it. Same with Pista and Pista Spiders. It's a one year run, Spiders much fewer than coupes, perhaps 1500 Pistas and 300-400 Spiders. However, my guess as good as anyone's. Unless you are a high level executive at Ferrari, you won't know. It makes sense not to leak such information.
Disagree. It will never be an LE without the plaque and therefore never be as collectable as the SA. They will pump out as many as they can which is why it is not numbered and in the wake of the hybrid replacement which will far exceed the PA in every metric except perhaps initial profit margin. If the economy goes the way many predict and you paid $500K for a PA and the new replacement is in another league for close to the same money things will get dicey. Many hunches here but more likely than not.
For what i guess Ferrari is changing strategy .. numbered LE cars only for the very expensive model ( over 1 m ? ) and the other “ special “ model will be always small production of cars but not anymore numbered. I really think , that if this will be the direction, a spider pista is and will be a collectible car , because if they are going to produce less than 1000 pcs , of course a pista spider will be very rare ( for ex. f40 turbo has been produced in over 1300 pcs ). We already saw that Ferrari is starting to produce very expensive numbered LE cars ( SP1 , SP2 and probably other variants of those , than again the new 2019 LaFerrari etc ) , my guess , again , is that they are really rasing the bar for what will be a numbered Ferrari, because they have understood that today there are more people available to invest over 1 milion of Euros in a numbered LE Ferrari car. About who is saying that there will be plenty of pista spider i am not agree because i personally know many important Ferrari consumers and VIP that they were not able to have an allocation of this car , than ... i don’t have the cristal ball but i will bet that Ferrari will not boost the allocations for this model .
The most valuable cars in Ferrari history were not numbered. The numbering thing is a relatively modern phenomenon. It is only demand v supply that affects value and numbering is a (quite successful) technique to try and influence demand. If another car has more built, not numbered, but much higher demand it will be priced stronger than a numbered car with weaker demand.
Agree. However, most Ferrari collectors with decent money reserves and wishing to reduce risk on capital target either hyper, vintage, or numbered LE. Modern production non-LE cars, although having initial high demand due to marketing, may over time be relegated to driver only status and traded for the next LE. The SA is lower risk than Speciale over time no doubt.
If you break down the small number of cars to each respective region/country you will see that both the coupe and the spider are relatively scarce. Future values have many variables and only time will tell.
What is a ton? 1000? 2000? worldwide? How do you define a ton? I am assuming you are spending time with some sales person who doesn't know jack. They spout off whatever they hear in the break room. Do you really think Ferrari corp is sharing this info at this level?