Pit bulls attack AGAIN!!!!

as a german shepard owner, i would like to go on the record and say pit bulls are NOT born killers... its more so the complete and utter lack of control on the owner's part

truth be told i've seen plenty of so called family dogs such as labradors have very nasty tempers due to the lack of care given by the owner

 

http://www.atts.org/statistics.html

The beagle and collie scored less than the American pit bull. You have to consider that it's not the temperment, it's just that when these dogs attack they do more damage, as they were bred to fight bulls; they have a hard time stopping once they start. But what it all boils down to is the owner; You have to socialize your dog.

 

Its a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The kind of owner who wants a "bad ass dog" generally goes and get a pit-bull. But one is not enough, they get 3 or 4 or 5 and they train them to be aggressive because that's "bad ass". Then, the dogs they have trained to be mean act mean and the owner acts surprised.

IMO it should be no different than someone leaving a loaded gun in their yard for anyone to get or leaving poison candy in the street - the owner should be responsible for attempted murder. Then maybe these owners will wake up and realize if they buy dogs with the intention of being "bad ass" then when the dogs do what they were trained to do by the owner, the owner will be responsible and be in jail for quite a while.

Arlie, I know many pit bulls and they are not aggressive by nature. Both my cousins have them and they are the most adorable and well intentioned dogs you've ever seen. My aunts Labs are the psychos - one bit my brothers ear in half when we were kids. They are that way because my uncle was not a good dog owner and made the dog into what he is.

 

It doesn't really matter to me what breed it is. I'll kill any dog that attacks any of my family. then I'll drop the dog off at the owners house along with the hospital bill.

Am I being to harsh?

 

My pitbulls super non aggressive it even plays with my girlfriends cats and doesnt even bark at strangers.

 

Teenage boys' blood drank by Ukrainian Woman. Not English, not German, not French, but once again,....UKRAINIAN. Can't you just hear them whining,....
"But we are such good people. We never hurt anybody."
Tell it to the judge.
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I agree 100% That's a huge problem in my area. I saw the other day a couple of guys getting walked by their pitbulls, thats right I said the humans were getting walked. As always I blame the owners, not the dog... and especially not the breed.

 

Like they say: "guns don't kill people; people kill people." It comes down to responsible ownership. And if a dog has a tendency towards agressive behavior, the owner MUST do all that he can to contain that animal. In this case, how did the dogs get loose?

 

To be fair I admit a pic-a-poo once bit my finger.

 

w-t-f?

 

Exactly what I was going to say. No one gets a border-collie to act like a bad-ass.

 

You know, half Pekingese, half poodle, you silly boi.

 

Sounds like a sissy yankee dog to me.

 

Horsey, it was a joke...

 

Grab a clue buddy. Ever owned a dog? Its an attitude like this that suggests you haven't, or if you did, you never completely grasped a dogs mentality. A dog is a pack animal - i.e, it runs in packs and follows an alpha. In a domesticated pack, the alpha is a human. What can we deduce? A pack is only as good or as disciplined as its leader. Therefore, what would be the logical conclusion? Punish the owner. Case closed, and you can save all the liberal huffy-puffery for some other misguided notion.

 

true story:

Get a call from the MIL the new folks who moved in down the road dogs (2)got out...attacked and killed 20 chickens, 5 cats, chased but couldn't catch their dog (inlaws live on 30+)...the new people live in NYC and needed to bring their "family pets" to the "country" where they had more room to run...We were lucky my 9 and 6 year old were not there as they always play outside...now when we go my shot gun comes as well and if I see the "only playing family pets" they get shot...end of story....btw guess what kind of dogs they were? hint not puglees (sp)...

 

Sounds logical, but in reality this doesn't work. Punishing the owners require that something happen first. Which means we wait for another attack, then issue a citation to the negligent owner. Yes, people are the cause of this problem. But if we're going to decide that violently-bred breeds of dogs are to be saved as a whole, then strong measures need to be instated. Breeds that are known for violence need a stronger regulatory order. Require registration, and make the penalties for non-compliance stiff. And when police come across questionable breeders, they can at least come at them for non-registration, seize the dogs and force registration. Plus, it gets the violators in the system. Then, require a minimum amount of insurance be carried on breeds with violent tendencies. Anyone found in violation will lose the dog until proof of insurance is obtained.

I'm a dog person and every time I hear one of these stories it bothers me that there are so many $hitheads out there who have such disregard for the animals and their fellow humans. If a guy is such a big shot that he needs to walk his enormous cock out on the end of a leash, then he should have no problem paying to ensure it doesn't get into any trouble. If a guy feels that his neighborhood is so $hitty that a vicious dog is necessary, then he better chain the hell out of that dog and make ******* sure it can't get loose.

In general, there is a need for greater oversight in the dog industry. There are far too many disreputable breeders, shady dealers and careless owners. And as a multiple dog owner, I get really pi$$ed off when I see examples of negligence, even if it's dog crap that hasn't been picked up, because these things reflect on all of us and can ultimately affect all dog owners negatively. So the bottom line is, hell yes they need to do something to regulate the "tough" breeds.

 

I explained it to you twice.

First, I was attacked as was my brother by a pair of springer spaniels. They were just mean-assed dogs.

Second, as usual, you dont know what you're talking about. Pit bulls are physically strong. The dogs at badly because they are TRAINED by their owners to act that way. If you have the kind of person who wants a "bad ass" dog, are they going to go buy a poodle? Or a pekingese? Or a Pug? or a Jack Russell? Or are they going to go get the baddest dogs they can - like Pit Bulls, or Rottweilers, or Dobermans? You know the answer.

What you are saying is the equivalent of "Camaros are involved in more high-speed accidents than other cars, therefore Camaros are bad and should be outlawed". I am saying "no, the kind of person who wants to run that way BUYS a Camaro because they want a fast car". Try to keep up, kid.

 

There's a difference that also needs to be established. Whenever this issue comes up, which is too often, people respond about how other breeds can bite, be mean, etc. But Arlie is right in that breeding has done a lot of damage to the pit bull breed. Now, I know that there are some nice pits out there. But unfortunately we have to talk in generalities. Bad intentions have produced an overwhelming number of pit bulls that are pre-disposed to violent behavior. Even to the point where properly-raised pits that seem docile have been known to "snap" at some point and attack.

Now for the difference. Dogs, like humans, have personalities. Their personalities are in large part a product of their upbringing, mixed in with their genetics. Commonly gentle breeds that exhibit aggressive behavior do so normally due to one of 3 reasons: 1)They're trained to be aggressive by their owner 2)They were attacked at a young age 3)They were never properly socialized. Injury or illness are also possibilities.

So, while any dog theoretically has the potential for violent behavior, it is wired more deeply into some than others.

 

#1 : You should calm down
#2 : You're wrong, pitbulls are not genetically bad, they are genetically strong. Just like Rottweilers, Presa Canarios (sp?) and many other breeds that I don't know. Being a good or bad dog is 100% education (owner).
My lab could literally tear me apart if he wanted to, just like a pit bull...but he's been a family dog, loved by everyone and is 100% teddy bear! Want proof that genes don't make much? We have a cat. His parents were outside cats, borderline wild cats. We got him when he was tiny ... he learned everything from the dog, and is a teddy bear as well.
Seriously, it's education. However, once a puppy has been raised as a bad dog, I'd rather stay clear of big powerful dogs ...

 

I heard the evil insurance machine was behind the pitbul attacks. Just like them no working bastages to disguise themselves as humans when they are really natural born killers.