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Planet F1 editorial on Stewards in F1....

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  1. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    #1 DF1, Oct 24, 2008
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2008
    Long but good article on an issue that affects each race. Im quite interested in opinions from some of the other sage's here whom I respect (SRT, Kraftwerk, TifosiIron, Senna1994 and Tifosi12) I would think you guys will have input to this. Lets hope someone at the FIA can rectify ASAP. I know Felipe and others have benefitted from involvment but overall the tenor of racing and results are affected and negatively so. I would think the first question any rule or structure change would elicit should be - Does it make racing better for the fans and drivers. Enjoy and happy weekends to all :)

    Fresh Ingredients For F1's Stew
    Thursday 23rd October 2008 - PlanetF1.com


    Stewarding has become the burning issue of the 2008 season, but what can be done to improve the process? Here are PF1's recommendations...

    *Appoint Full-Time Stewards

    The most obvious improvement. So obvious, in fact, that it begs the question of exactly why F1 does not already have them in place. After all, this is a sport that is not exactly short of funds.

    By changing the three stewards on a race-by-race basis, the FIA has created a system that invites inconsistency. As this website argued a few weeks ago, 'only if the identity of the decision-makers is consistent can there be any hope that their decisions will be too'.

    *Issue Explanations

    For the stewards not to provide explanations or anything more than perfunctory statements when announcing their rulings is nothing short of an outrage. The ultra-brief press release confirming Lewis Hamilton' penalty in Belgium was designed, it would seem, to confuse rather than confirm and, as such, was an insult to the viewing public and discredited the sport.

    According to reports from the paddock, the FIA are considering instructing their stewards to issue explanations with their rulings next season. It will not be too soon.


    *Let Us See What They Can See

    As well as provide explanations, F1 fans - as the lifeblood of the sport - are entitled to see what the stewards see when result-affecting decision are made. Otherwise those explanations will be reduced to exercises in paper wasting.

    For instance, the only footage armchair fans saw of Hamilton's move past Sebastian Vettel in France was from an onboard camera on the McLaren. Afterwards, it was reported that 'the stewards had access to the circuit's closed circuit TV cameras when making their decision' to penalise Hamilton. It was a mistake - and continues to be - for that footage not to be made available.


    *Quicken Up The Process

    January's overhaul was, in part, brought about because it took the stewards five days to rule on whether to retrospectively alter the result of last year's Japanese Grand Prix. While they have not yet required a similar lengthy period to make a ruling this year, they have by no means provided speedy resolutions.

    Their judgements in Spa, Japan and Valencia were all issued hours after the race finished and it remains a mystery why the stewards took so long to impose a penalty against Nico Rosberg in Singapore when his offence - entering the pitlane when the Safety Car was deployed - was so obvious and clear.

    Unanswered questions have also been raised over why the stewards announced they would only investigate Felipe Massa's tangle with Sebastian Bourdais in Japan when 16 laps were still remaining. It had taken them just 15 laps to investigate two separate incidents involving Massa and Hamilton at the start of the race and issue their penalties.


    *Full Time And Fully Trained

    The argument for obligating stewards to undergo a training course is easier to make than insisting that they should have first-hand experience of motor-racing. After all, very few of the leading referees and umpires in other sports, such as football and cricket, are former players or participants. However, they are trained for the role.

    Nonetheless, the current selection process behind appointing race stewards in F1 is dubious, to say the least. As far as PF1 could detect, Yves Bacqueline, one of the three Belgian GP race stewards, owed his appointment purely to his position as Race Promoter for the Spa circuit. The claims of his 37-year-old colleague Nicholas Deschaux were even more difficult to ascertain with the Frenchman having spent his career in administration as the former legal director and general secretary of the French Motorsport Federation. In that context, denying that the sport's stewarding would be improved if former drivers were involved becomes substantially more difficult.


    *Decide If The Race Director Has Any Relevance

    In punishing Bourdais and Hamilton for their alleged transgressions at Suzuka and Spa respectively, the stewards have directly opposed the advice provided by Race Director Charlie Whiting.
    The contradictions demean Whiting, as well as his position, and simultaneously invite accusations of bias and misjudgement by the stewards.

    In preparation for McLaren's appeal hearing in Paris, FIA President Max Mosley claimed, "McLaren should not have asked Charlie whether Lewis had done anything wrong and he should not have answered" on the grounds that "he is not in a position to give even the beginnings of a considered opinion - his responsibility was to see that nobody got killed.".

    It's a reasonable point but it does beg the question of to whom teams can refer such incidents. Even the FIA must agree that, were an identical situation to arise, an immediate instruction for a driver to let a competitor back past would be preferable to a ruling from the stewards' office approximately two hours after the race had ended.


    Moreover, for the stewards to flatly contradict the reputed instruction given to the drivers before Sunday's Japanese GP by the Race Director, whose "responsibly is to see that nobody gets killed", sets a dangerous precedent that cannot be justified.


    *Clarify The Role Of The Stewards' Advisor

    Instead of replacing Tony-Scott Andrews, the sole permanent race steward who retired at the end of last season, the FIA opted instead to appoint 'a permanent adviser' in the form of Alan Donnelly.

    His remit was kept vague, probably by design, with the FIA only remarking that Donnelly would 'assist' the stewards and 'manage' the decision-making process. Therefore, the FIA was able to deadbat his involvement in various rulings this season by declaring that he was fully entitled to get involved. However, given that he was reported to have 'led' the investigation in France, and was the only steward to speak to and question Hamilton at Spa, it could just as easily be questioned whether Donnelly had assumed the position of Chief Steward.


    *Remove Alan Donnelly

    In defending Donnelly, whose appointment in January has happened to coincide with the dawn of the most litigious year in F1, Mosley argued that "it would be impossible to find somebody who had a reasonable knowledge of formula one who hadn't had a relationship with one of the teams".

    The flaw is that this is precisely the argument Mosley uses to discredit suggestions that a former F1 driver should be appointed to the role of steward - "It's very difficult to have a former driver, unless you go back to the dark ages, who hasn't had a relationship with one of the existing teams," he explained last month, oblivious to his own contradiction.

    Moreover, the FIA remains wide open to accusations of bias so long as it continues to employ Donnelly as their Stewards Advisor when he is the chief executive of a company that listed* Ferrari as one of their clients. There is, of course, no suggestion from this website that Donnelly's actions in his newly-created post have been influenced by his paid association with Ferrari or that this may have been a factor in why a number of controversial penalties have been applied against McLaren. It's just that it is very easy to understand why people other have.

    No other organisation would leave itself so vulnerable to a charge of bias and it is plainly absurd for the FIA not to appreciate that.

    *Decide If Nationality Does Matter

    Finally, an issue that has bothered us for some time and, despite our request for clarification, the FIA have yet to respond to...

    In January, when the latest overhaul of the stewarding system was undertaken, it was announced 'And in a bid to ensure total impartiality of decisions, the appointed FIA stewards at each race will be chosen from nationalities that are totally neutral - so they are not the same as any of F1's competitors.'


    However, as this FIA document from this year's Japanese GP clearly indicates, this is not the case. Graham Stoker - as his listing here testifies - is a London-based lawyer whose nationality is British - the same as Lewis Hamilton, Jenson Button and half-a-dozen of the teams. Curious.


    * In a counterproductive move that actually encouraged the conspiracy theorists, Sovereign Strategy removed Ferrari from the listing shortly after Donnelly's appointment. It can, however, still be seen via the web archive website - and the picture that accompanies this piece.


    Pete Gill
     
  2. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Good post, I could spend ages with this one, however at present I have Lewis Hamilton's syndrome RED MIST, I HATE MAX, so much I can't respond yet.
    1. the FIA has created a system that invites inconsistency...Bingo!

    2.F1 fans - as the lifeblood of the sport - are entitled to see what the stewards see when result-affecting decision are made.YEH

    3.FIA President Max Mosley claimed, "McLaren should not have asked Charlie whether Lewis had done anything wrong and he should not have answered" on the grounds that "he is not in a position to give even the beginnings of a considered opinion...Arghhhhhhhhhhhh

    4.Mosley argued that "it would be impossible to find somebody who had a reasonable knowledge of formula one who hadn't had a relationship with one of the teams".

    The flaw is that this is precisely the argument Mosley uses to discredit suggestions that a former F1 driver should be appointed to the role of steward - "It's very difficult to have a former driver, unless you go back to the dark ages, who hasn't had a relationship with one of the existing teams," he explained last month, oblivious to his own CONTRADICTION.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  3. SRT Mike

    SRT Mike Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Thanks for your compliment DF! :)

    Regarding the article, at first glance, there are two things that stand out.

    First, I agree with everything that was written.

    Second, the mere fact that the author has to say "of course THIS website is not suggesting there is impartiality in appointing Donnely" speaks VOLUMES. In what other sport does the governing body rule with an iron fist? Max lashes out at anyone he disagrees with and more than that, he tries to penalize them and get revenge - like how he is trying to get the guy off the BBC commentating team (Brundle, IIRC). Can you even imagine the higher ups at NASCAR calling FOX trying to get one of the commentators booted? It REEKS of impropriety!

    The larger issue is that all of the above is precisely how Max wants it. He wants it to be nebulous and uncertain so that he is free to make whatever choice he wants and say it was done according to rules. Max isn't half as smart as he thinks he is... and the fans aren't half as dumb as he thinks they are. Which is why it's utterly transparent when he says things like "we can't have drivers be stewards, they would be biased", then he has Donnely be the chief steward and the company he heads has Ferrari as a client. Totally inappropriate, but Max doesn't care... he's a guy who thinks banging 5 hookers while he (and they) are married is totally a-OK.

    Usually hubris comes back to bite people in the azz... I thought that happened earlier this year, but it hasn't. I can't think of anyone who deserves to be taken down more than Max. I'd love to see him in jail for breach of fiduciary duty after he accepted a payoff from Bernie to hand over the TV rights for a pittance. But I have lost all hope that there is anyone with the backbone to take him on.
     
  4. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +100 to all your post Mike and DF1, suffice to say it sums up all that is wrong with F1.
     
  5. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    +1 with all that is posted by SRT and the Kraftwerk :) It is amazing that such a good change in Steward's roles and structures, along with new aero rules for next year could possibly yield an amazing season, yet the heavy fist of FIA-Max could result in terribe effect(s). The elements are there to simply and effectively make F1 what it should be.

    Lets hope for the best and I thank anyone who reads this. I think its the single most important immediate issue of concern and this year shows how much of an understatement my words are. The transparency issue completely hits the mark for me out of the article.
     
  6. Senna1994

    Senna1994 F1 World Champ

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    Exacto my friend, thank you DF1 for your nice compliments. I am beginning to agree with Franco that if the FIA keep intervening, sooner than later I personally will stop watching.
     

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