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  1. joe sackey

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    As with certain prominent independent restorers, they may have to focus on complete restorations only, as the way to protect their reputation.

    I think it's fine for Polo Storico to sublet the work to previous employees for now, but eventually, it should be all done under one roof at the actual factory, just as Ferrari & Porsche do, again, to protect their reputation.

     
  2. EMILIO

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    ...almost ;)
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  3. geno berns

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    So what exactly is done in house? Final assembly and tuning? Any one know exactly what gets outsourced and what gets done by the staff of the factory?
     
  4. Some of you might got this message as well in the inbox today:

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    Each car has its own story to tell and Polo Storico specialists work with customers to agree the most authentic restoration for each classic Lamborghini. Before the start of the activity, a complete assessment and detailed quotation is provided, with a schedule of works and consultation program agreed with the owners.

    A full restoration averages 2,000 hours of labour, over approximately 12-18 months, and customers can enjoy a close involvement during the overall project. Every detail is photographed and recorded, with the full restoration history catalogued in a book and presented to the owner at handover: an important feature of the restored Lamborghini’s provenance. A one year’s warranty is provided.

    All restoration works use authentic Lamborghini parts, either drawing on original stock held by Automobili Lamborghini or using new parts manufactured to original blueprints.

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    This might be of interest for the ones not received it.
     
  5. Olivier NAMECHE

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  6. hashiriya

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    As authentic, as VW nuts, sourced from Taiwan, come.

    Just ordered a bunch of parts incl hardware, most of the Fiat nuts are unavailable, now replaced with your Jetta fellows.
     
  7. miurasv

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    #32 miurasv, Feb 10, 2018
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    How much do Lamborghini Polo Storico charge for certification for a Miura and Countach? Is their certification to the same standard as Ferrari Classiche? Thanks in advance for any replies.
     
  8. wbaeumer

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    Well, I disagree!
    I have supervised 4 restos of Maserati cars with the most known shops in and around Modena. Their work came in total between min. US$400k and max. 600k. I always made payment in 3 steps:

    1. 33.3% of the estimated costs paid before the work begins.
    2. 33.3% paid before (!!) the paint job.
    3. 33.3% paid before (!!) the final acceptance of all their work.
    and planed a 20% reserve on top for unforeseen work etc.

    I had only once a problem before the 3rd transaction - and this was quickly solved after my complainment. And then the 3rd payment was done.

    All done on official invoice. No problems at all.

    You can work with the Italian specialist without major problems and don`t need the factory.

    With Ferrari Classiche its different - they are certifying the cars which increases the value of them. Without that its more difficult to sell a Ferrari this days.

    Lamborghini is far away from that so -IMO- its not necessary to use Polo Storico as they outsource the job to the shops who are also work on cars of Ferrari (for Ferrari Classiche) and Maserati.
     
  9. joe sackey

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    I think $400,000 to $600,000 is significantly more than Polo Storico charge, perhaps someone can confirm this?
     
  10. miurasv

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    I believe Lamborghini Polo Storico are certifying cars. Tom Hartley Jnr has just had his Miura certified at a cost of just under 10,000 Euros. See screen shots of his Instagram page with his comments. Tom Hartley Jnr picture of course.


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  11. joe sackey

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    That's great but they'll want to de-centralize the process and make it possible to have certification done at the point of any authorized Lamborghini dealer worldwide as Ferrari SpA does, they'll get a lot more business that way. Shipping the car to Italy-and-back from different parts of the globe is simply not practical or desirable for many people, the additional cost of same notwithstanding.
     
  12. raymondQV

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    10,000 Euros to have a car certified, in case of the Mimran QV they haven't been able to provide the correct color code, gimme a break...
     
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  14. joe sackey

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    Indeed, I can see how some owners will have to gain confidence that the Certification will yield correct & detailed data, and is this worth the 10,000 Euros, perhaps in time this will happen over time.

    Thanks.

    For those who don't understand French, this LP400 is 1120204, RHD, ex-Adnan Khashoggi, Giallo/Tabacco, and is the one we saw on the Polo Storico stand in chassis form a year ago @ Techno Classica. They say the restoration is half-way through, so its unlikely it will be finished next month.
     
  15. P300V8

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    One can hardly blame Polo Storico for not knowing the code for a special colour that was not written on the build sheet in April 1986. As I already informed you this was a standard PPG colour and Polo Storico are working directly with PPG to define the colours that were used from the beginning...
     
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  16. Complete waste of money. I did the COA on a 930. They wanted the engine & transaxle numbers. You would think a company like Porsche would have those recorded & tell YOU what they should be. Luckily that was under $75.
     
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  17. wbaeumer

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    Ferrari Classiche has their partners worldwide. Anybody needs to bring his/her cars to one of them, very important cars need to be transported to Bella Italia to the FC headquarter.
    Please correct me if I am wrong - but Lamborghini has no partner worldwide for the certification, or am I wrong here?
    So how does this Lamborghini-"certification" works? On the "heyyyy, please give me the no.`s of your car, pay our invoice and here you get your certification box"-strategy? Ferrari owners would laugh about this...
     
  18. rmolke85

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    There absolutely are Classiche certified shops in the US. I know of one very very special car that was documented in the US by the Italians. They came here multiple times from my understanding.
     
  19. ClaxNZ

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    I spoke to Elena from Polo Storico on their stand at Retromobile and was told that at present you have to take your car to St Agata but that they are looking to establish certification services elsewhere. About a year ago Urraco certification was quoted at €6000 and two weeks to produce the boxed certificate and inspection recorded in a book as shown above. A bit hard to justify the € relative to Urraco values for now.


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  20. miurasv

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    Re cost of Polo Storico Certification: Just under 10,000 Euros is very expensive. The 2016 price to Classiche certify a Daytona was $6840 US. Ferrari Build Sheets are extra though I don't know if Polo Storico include them within the price.
     
  21. joe sackey

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    I agree PS can only verify what they have on their build sheet.

    I also agree that PPG used their standard Prugna Metallizzato as the base paint for Bordeaux Speciale, but as they often do for special projects, they tinted the color differently to supply Bordeaux Speciale, so technically speaking the former color is different from the latter. Patrick Mimran told me personally that he liked metallic colors on a Countach such as Rame Colorado Metalizzato, and simply wanted something along the lines of a Bordeaux like he had on his Ferrari 250 Boano, and PPG came up with Bordeaux Speciale.

    Indeed the reasonable expectation is that the manufacturer should be telling the customer what the correct matching numbers should be for the car when they built it. However, the Certification process is also to declare that a car exists in the specification in which it was built, which covers whether the car has been substantively modified etc. When Ferrari SpA started their Classiche Certification process @ 10 years ago, most were in uproar about the need or expense of it, but, over time the program has become both accepted & valued by most.

    I don't think Lamborghini has set up a network of Certification centers in different regions via their dealers, but if their program is to gain acceptant & have value with most, they will have to do this, that said, this is a relatively new program with Lamborghini so we need to give it time to develop.

    Exactly.

    Ferrari Classiche Certification is now much more, I just did a 288 GTO and it is @ $10,000
     
  22. Olivier NAMECHE

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    To make it clear for everyone, here is an invoice for the certification, no more rumor about figures : 6.100 € + VAT = 7.442 €
     

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  23. joe sackey

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    @ $9,178 it's on par with Ferrari SpA
     
  24. Ingo Knito

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    Do you mean the Countach with the incorrect steering wheel from the 25th Anniversary? I've thought that Countach went through a 100% restauration and I was disappointed when I've seen the incorrect steering wheel.
     
  25. joe sackey

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    Why do you think it went through 100% restoration when as reported in this section, both the sellers themselves and Polo Storico declared that it did not?
     

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