Porsche 930

Rob,

I've had many 911's and 930's. Maintenance is almost non-existent compared to a F-car.

Oil change yourself about $20..........a dealer about $70.
The old saying that P-cars are bullet proof is pretty much my experiance.

Chas

 

$20 oil change?

12 qt's of oil + 1 (sometimes 2) filter(s).......

If you use mobile one, count on 100$ oil changes. And make sure you have carrera chain tensioners. Outside of those, what an AWESOME machine .

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i have a 930 along w/ my ferraris currently. i have been quoted in the past as saying the 930 may be the greatest all around sports car of all time. they still look fresh and menacing as the day they were introduced. as mentioned in the second post, the maint. is virtually nil. this is my second 930 and i think i will not part w/ this one as i dont know what replaces this except a kirkham cobra w/ a 650 hp aluminum 427...but then again 930's never die or fade away...they just get more and more hot rodded!

mine currently sits w/ over 500hp according to andial and it is just so reliable. i really cannot think of a weak link w/ the exception of the cis injection. it can be a bit of a problem but by no means non tunable. i have replaced mine w/ electramotive tec3 efi w/ crank fired ignition and it is pretty well dialed in now. the turbo i owned previously, i drove over 130k miles and went 20k between valve adjustments and other than oil changes, struts, front and rear rotors...that it! less than $4k in 6 years. durring that six years, i aslo drove that car like i was hans stuck...i really drove it hard and it was bullet proof.

find a great one(they are out there) and enjoy the hell out of it.

one last point...my current 930 is very easy to drive in any condition and very docile but when you turn on the light switch it is a fire breather that hits like mike tyson. what fun!

 

your are correct on the cost of thoil change. the dry sump system will take alot of mobile 1!

 

I’ve had my stock 1987 930 for eight years. With the exception of a fuel pump check valve ($25) and accumulator ($125), it has been absolutely reliable. If you do all of the recommended maintenance you should have no surprises. I run 20-50 Mobile 1 here in Phoenix, and the dry sump, front oil cooler and all of the plumbing takes 11-12 quarts. The best I can tell from market indexes, the 930’s value is within $1K of when I bought it. Mine will go to my brother-in-law when I locate the right Challenge Stradale.

The 930 is a great car, always a classic, always an attention getter, very reliable, and fun to drive. It’s really hard to find a clean, stock car. Many have had engine modifications, bigger turbos and intercoolers added, etc. As always, buy the best car you can find and afford if resale value is important.

 

throttle off over steer accidents are not unique to the turbo...more a symptom of the rear engine location. it is a challenge that at the limit makes these cars very engaging...get it right and you will feel like a hero.

you mentioned reserve dollars for tranny, turbo, engine...

response: tranny...you will not need to go into a 930 box as it is bullet proof!

turbo...if you did need to replace the blower, the latest k-27/29 hi
flow init can be had for $1200 dollars and can be installed in 2 hours

engine...you are looking for a stock package so if you are able to
find a lower mileage car, you may just let that money you set aside
collect interest as these cars are really robust.

thry to go w/ an 86-89 turbo as they are trimmed out a bit better inside and have better ventilation controls. the ac is not really great on any of the years but there are companies that offer upgrades.

 

OOPS!!
meant $120 and $170

 

Yup, the 930 4-speed was the transmission of choice for guys building 1000HP sand rails in California. It's not great for drag racing your Porsche, you want to be easy on the 1st to 2nd shifts (gets you ready to own a Ferrari), but that box is really tough!

 

Is the 930 4speed as slow as the 915's?

 

maybe a bit quicker but by no means a muncie rock crusher. the 4 sp is also surprisingly well spaced and does well with the power of the turbo...2nd gear will run to 82 mph and 4th will take you to 192 mph.

with a modded car...it will pull red line in top gear too! wow!

 

WOW! Quick question, how does your A/C cope with the Phoenix heat?!? I've always loved the 930. Drove a Slope nose (DP package adjustable boost and all) and the experience has always sat in the back of my brain. But, as I've gotten older I've become less tolerant of poor driving conditions. I.E. me sweating my ass off while sitting in traffic!

 

Ohhhh, I want one so bad. 5 more years

 

i knew that was going to happen! wait til ya get the modification bug...these cars turn from fast to...insane!!

have fun rob and look for a good one...take your time!

 

The last year 930 -- with the 5-SPEED TRANSAXLE -- is my unicorn

 

Sorry for the delayed response. In 100-105 degree heat, and with a fully charged A/C system, it will freeze you our of the car.

Three issues:

1) Phoenix really is a dry heat.
2) My A/C needs a Freon transfusion about every 24 months. This seems common for this vintage.
3) When it is 110 and above my cars are sitting in an air conditioned garage and I'm driving my Toyota 4Runner......

Oh yeah, if you like the slope nose DP cars, we have a fellow Fchat member and Ferrari owner who has a DP 935 monster here in Phoenix. It is down right scary!!

Roy

 

You mean the 1989 930?

I would perfer a 964 (1991 or 1992)
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I've driven my brother-in-law's gorgeous white/black '88. It produces about 400 rwhp. Big turbo, big intercooler, head work, etc.

I really wanted to like it but it feels like a truck compared to my Lotus Esprit. He said the same thing but he still prefers his turbo.

He has owned the car for nearly 10 years and has spent $30k+ in repairs and upgrades at the local Porsche performance shop. I'm not kidding. Typically, a failure (like a cylinder base gasket oil leak that requires engine-out) mushrooms into a huge "while we're in there" operation, but it has still consumed thousands and thousands even minus the changes. Clutch, turbo, and the oil leak are the biggies that spring to mind.

My blanket advice is: find out what the worst case ($$$) is and decide if you can afford that.

 

well done rob. i hope it turns out to be a good car and that it suits you well. they are real icons! keep us in the loop as you go down the road to owning.