Porsche 997TT

Have you seen the other 997TT threads?

 

what about a Lambo, seems Ferrari's are also becoming quite common these days.

 

What's a vertically integrated factory?

 

May be wrong, but is it not when the manufacturer owns the parts suppliers or makes all the parts for itself rather than bulk buying from other companies that make parts for other manufacturers?

 

Good to see and hear how much you enjoy your 430 but this belongs in either the Modern forum or the Off Topic forum under Cars, Boats, Planes, Trains, Motorcycles and whatever else. Maybe with a title change to My 430 vs. 997 TT.

As for factory integration, Porsche and other mass producers have to outsource many of their parts. The "rice" car makers understood very early on that the key to producing reliable, solid cars was to work very closely with suppliers to be sure they held the same standards that the main manufacturer held. American car companies still don't understand this, even though the "ricers" have been handing them their asses on a silver platter in every way for the last 20 years.

Aston is totally in house, although they use the vertical integration techniques of Volvo. I believe Lambo is still largely in-house with contributions from Audi for the instrument panel.

Ferrari doesn't have to outsource because they're still comparatively small, unless you count the Carrozzeria interior program, and because LDM understood the importance of maintaining and increasing the exclusivity of the brand. They used to outsource to Scaglietti but they bought Scaglietti.

I'm sure the Germans outsource, especially MB and VW, but they probably understood early that having suppliers on the same sheet of music was as important as their R&D.


Forza,


Cavallini

 

I agree, although the numbers are great, I just don't get that "electric" feeling driving a Porsche. Ferraris just feel more alive and urgent, and it's hard to quantify, but I think it has to do with instanteous, precise steering feel, edgy exhaust note, and aggressive gearing.

Gary

 

They don't call it a "Speed Appliance" for nothing.

 

The Company is buying everything up and down the production line so they are the producers from beginning to end

 

Enjoy Maui, see you when you get back,

Gary

 

You are right about the sound and appearance of ferrari production cars vs. 911/987 series, no doubt. But the same can't be said about the CGT. You simply can't have great sound w/o 8, 10, or 12 cylinders.

As to vertical integration, the name magnetti marelli comes to mind. And i believe i read that the CGT carbon fiber chassis was built by the same company that built the enzo structure.

Enjoy your car.