Porsche confirms F1 interest after Italian GP visit Porsche's financial chief has confirmed that the Stuttgart manufacturer is seriously considering a return to Formula 1 as an engine supplier under the proposed 2021 regulations. Asked if the current plans for a twin-turbo V6 with less technology could attract Porsche to F1 he said: "Absolutely. We have to cut costs in F1, and it's a good way to reach this target." Meschke also confirmed that "discussions are around being a supplier," and thus there are no plans to form a works team. Among the obvious possible partners are Williams, which enjoyed a technical relationship with Porsche before selling its Hybrid Power division, and Red Bull, which has extensive connections with the VW Group. McLaren has a strong history with Porsche through the TAG turbo collaboration of 1983-87, but they are now competitors in the road car market. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/porsche-confirms-formula-1-interest-for-2021-949446/
Whoever wrote that sentence has a weird sense of humor...we can also say that "McLaren has a strong history with Honda through the world championship titles of 1988, 1989, 1990 and 1991"... but that history was not sufficient to ensure success after three miserables seasons in 2015, 2016 and 2017. And the last Porsche effort in F1 with Arrows was certainly not a success either. But I digress slightly, and I agree: the arrival of Porsche would be good news. Rgds
It was a disaster because they tried to do it on the cheap by coupling 2 ex-Tag V6 engines on the same block. So it was too long and too heavy for a start. But, unlike Honda, Porsche soon admitted it's mistake and withdrew.
Sorry William, I think you are wrong on this one: the TAG Porsche V6 of 1.500 cm3 has a 90° angle between the banks, whereas the 3.500 V12 had a 80° one. So the 3.500 V12 could not have been two Turbo V6 put together. What the V12 had also, and that may explain that some people thought it was two V6 assembled together, is a central power output, which was something its designer, Hans Metger, had done on the engine of the Porsche 917. Rgds
I seem to recall that the major drawback of Porsche's 3.500cm3 V12 was first and foremost that it was way much too heavy... Rgds
Was not the shaft coming out through the vee which made it hugely long and tall that the darn looked like if could fit in the back of a Leyland Bus.
Would it be as Porsche, or could they brand Bentley or lamborghini, as Porsche is typically half a step under ferrari in the scheme of things, whereas Bentley and lambo are assumed direct competition by most of the unwashed public
The drivers would have to wear a moustache, and be pissed before they started. Pretty rich girls hang over with he cockpit at the pit stops, and when they finish, they park up and race to the podium on foot
After the disastrous V12 of 1991 Porsche built a V10 for 1993 that never raced. This V10 with displacement increased to 5.5 was the engine chosen for the 1999 LMP1 which also never raced and was finally used in the Carrera GT. Mulsanne's Corner: Porsche LMP1 '99-'00
I don't think they are going to be anymore reliable than the current offerings. This next part is not in response to your post... I don't know why people keep bringing up the porsche and reliability thing for there engines. They really aren't all that reliable. They all have the same problems as everyone else. F1 will be no different. Road car engines are not F1 engines. Honday probably makes the most reliable small engines on the planet... and yet... they can't finish a race in F1. They can finish and even dominate motorsports in other arenas... but struggle horrifically with f1. Porsche has no better chance than anyone else.
Porsche has just committed to Formula E...they are going electric car racing and dropping out of LeMans. Porsche will be in F1...but only when Forumla E absorbs what is left of F1 and gasoline engines are gone.
Its more than likely Porsche with be in F1 in 2020 into 2021 if said PU's are simpler and cheaper to make. Currently, these hybrid PU's are way too complicated and way to costly to make all for the sake of road relevance.
I hope Porsche makes up its mind soon to join F1. It would be interesting to see 2 German manufacturers head to head.
