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  1. Choptop

    Choptop F1 Rookie

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    Give me the low down on the current 911 series...

    I"ll do some more research.. but what are the basic differences? I see all the model designations but dont know what they denote...

    GT2?
    GT3?
    plain ole 911?
    911 Turbo?
    Carrera 2?
    Carrera 4?


    also, what is the break down as to what makes a 993? 996? is it model year?


    sorry for the lack of a clue... just never followed the models tooooo closely. I know the basics, Carrera is higher spec than base, GT most likely denotes some more track oriented variation...

    but what are the details?

    Danke Mucho.
     
  2. ylshih

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    GT2 = sportier version of Turbo, more HP, RWD
    GT3 = track version, normally aspirated, more HP, lighter weight, RWD
    911 Turbo = Turbo, wide-body, AWD
    plain ole 911 = Carrera 2
    Carrera 2 = RWD, normally aspirated, regular body
    Carrera 4 = AWD, normally aspirated, wide body

    993 = last of the air-cooled 911's (1993-98)
    996 = first of the water-cooled 911's (1999-2005)
    997 = 2nd generation water-cooled (2005+)
     
  3. writerguy

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  4. Choptop

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    Sure !!!

    I'll drive/ride anything


    Been thinking about a wurstburner as a fun car. We'll see. I gotta go do a few test drives, see how I fit and all.

    They see mlike very good performance for the $.
     
  5. writerguy

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    The car i shot and posted above is in the middle of this picture that some magazine did.... ;-)
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  6. Ducman491

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    I was gonna say Gray but the cool bodyshops will tint the primer to the color of the car for better coverage. I guess I missed the mark a bit.
     
  7. Choptop

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    any years with known problems?
     
  8. the red one

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    mmmmm...yellow bird...
     
  9. whart

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    RAther have a 308. Just kidding :) (Had a GT2- they don't suck). Me, I'd git me one of them thar 89 930 turbo weenies. 50 large should buy you the best.
     
  10. jakermc

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    Also note that the newest version of the 911 is now called the 997.

    993 known problems - Biggest issue is valve guides. I've heard of some that needed guides done at 50K miles or so. Relatively infrequent problem, these things are about as bullet proof as you can get. I think there were also tire wear issue on the first year, something easily resolved by updating the suspension settings.

    996 known problems - Rear main seal leaks. Far too common for a Porsche. The leaks aren't huge, little drops on the floor but still wrong. Repairs are being done with a redesigned seal, though I am not sure if the problem is 100% resolved with that. Second biggest problem appears to be leaks from the anti-freeze filler tube.

    Check out rennlist.com for lots of great info. There are specific 993, 996, and 997 areas.
     
  11. writerguy

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    chop's

    I bet if you ask some more specific questions here there are some good answers to be had
     
  12. Adrift

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    All RMS issues have not been resolved, as "RMS" is a catch-all name for a whole gaggle of separate issues. Porsche has fixed most of them, but not all.

    Personally I wouldn't let RMS deter me, as Porsche is very good about fixing them under warranty, sometimes even after it has expired.

    As the magazines say, drive the newest Porsche you can afford. Unless you are someone who likes nostalgia for nostalgia's sake, you won't be disappointed. Each evolution is superior to the last overall.

    A bit more on the quick explantion above:
    GT2 is a RWD scary version of the already VERY fast turbo. Not for the meek, those who are not VERY competent high HP drivers, or those without deep pockets and good medical insturance. lol

    GT3 is a track car, with a high strung NA engine. Unless you love track work or can tolerate a "track tuned" car, this might not be for you.

    The regular old 911 comes in 2 flavors...S and non-S. S gets you more HP and more techno go-fast options.

    Any Porsche can be optioned out the eye-balls, so it is hard to go into too many details.

    Unless you gotta have the 911, you might want to check out the Cayman. Much better looking than the 911 (IMHO) and already touted as the best handling (non-GT) Porsche ever. It doesn't have the ultimate HP of the 911, but few will be able to keep ahead of you on a track regardless.

    Hey WriterGuy...how did you get Hans to give you the keys to Yellowbird?!? lol I told Hans to ask if wanted to check out / feature my 3600S. Maybe the fact I haven't heard back means "no". lol Email me at [email protected] if you want to talk. Cheers.
     
  13. yoda

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    My cousin has a GT3 and it's a bit much on the road, great for track. I think the last time I heard he was thinking about trading in for a turbo, good on the track and you can daily drive them.
     
  14. IROC_DIS

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    a Choptop thread that isn't about motorcycles? something is wrong here.... haha
     
  15. Choptop

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    hehehee... I really do like cars too... even run them on the track occasionally:D

    Just most of times I have 4 wheels is when I'm bringing my wheels back from the tire trailer on a pit bike :D
     
  16. writerguy

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    Ja big long haired Biker man drives a Volvo Wagon...
     
  17. Adrift

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    Personally, I feel the Turbo is too much GT cruiser to be a great track car. Stock, it (the 996tt anyway) is pretty softly sprung, has a long, soft throw shifter, and a crazy soft (overassisted) clutch. Throw in the fact it is heavy, AWD, and a turbo (you NEVER get rid of all lag) and I think a GT3 would be a much better choice for a track car. Or any of Porsche's other NA cars for that matter.

    Don't get me wrong. People drive them on the track to great effect, but it isn't really what that car was built for and you can definitely tell.

    BTW, the "Carrera" badge no longer means anything. It is just a name they slap on the decklid of a 911 if you order it.
     
  18. Choptop

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