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  1. mikesufka

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    If a guy was going to buy a used Porsche Turbo, are there any years to stay away from? Say looking at cars over the past decade? It seems that ~ $50,000 would buy an older Turbo with low miles.

    Things to know? Look for? Advice? Are these cars pretty reliable?

    Thanks.

    Mike
     
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    #2 Desperado, Feb 28, 2010
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    I'm no 996tt expert but I believe the first year (s) there was a reported main bearing problem that was since corrected. I would think, given your budget, that you could find a nice newer car and wouldn't have to worry about a 1st year car. You maybe even able to squeeze into an X50 car. Good luck with your search.
     
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  4. ferraripete

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    what turbo decade are you talking about? they are all different. all great cars for different reasons.

    let's try to dial in to a year and style first...then we can help you better.
     
  5. mikesufka

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    Whoops. To be more clear, say the year 2000 and newer. What were the main differences between the different years?

    Mike
     
  6. Kds

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    #6 Kds, Mar 1, 2010
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    IMHO there are no significant differences of note, except for the introduction PCCB and the X50 option package, which together later morphed into the Turbo "S' option into the final model year.

    The first generation PCCB brakes were a total flop as they failed early. The GEN II system did not due to a redesign of the rotor. Now, these rotors are roughly $10K per corner.........so lots of cars have steel brakes in their place as a result (especially GT2's that were tracked)......PCNA did not warranty these rotor failures.

    X50 is well known for what it offers.

    Any nominal repair issues that occured have been corrected by now, or in the later cars, designed out. These are pretty tought all around DD cars IMHO.
     
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    #9 Kds, Mar 1, 2010
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    Good eye Uro........

    Depends on condition obviously........but it seems a little pricey IMHO, based on what I have seen out there for sale, as even a 9K mile car will need something, probably tires to start with in addition to the wheel issue being sorted out, and you go from there after a PPI. Usually when I see that (or aftermarket wheels installed with no OEM wheels included as part of the sale) I get really nervous as it can mean it was in an accident, and the car was curbed on one side, or either hopped one and broke a couple of rims. Seen that a lot.........people think they are invincible with AWD. It's hard to do, but not impossible.

    The latest comp I have is from last week........a 2001 996TT black/black 23K mile car out of Kansas for $43K.....all records from new, no accidents, 2 owners, don't know the current condition as no PPI was done since my client can't unload his Boxster, but if it needed the usual brake pads/rotors/tires/cutch and a service, you'd add $7-8K to that......so $49-50K +/- all in........9K miles versus 23K miles is a non issue.

    Here's the wheel pics of the car Mike posted.
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  9. ferraripete

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    any interest in a 11k mile 2003 996 tt x-50, w/ tubi exhaust? black w/ black and yellow piping. all options except pccb.

    as new condition...even the brake calipers and the inside of the wheels are spotless.

    $60k (firm or it stays) and truly needs nothing!!

    pcb
     
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    There's nothing wrong w/ the wheels. My 2004 C4S that was CPO had the same wheels and so do my 2003 Turbo.

    ///Michael
     
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    PCCB's are "only" approx. 5K per corner :) Still hope I dont need to change them anytime soon.
     
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    So on one side the spokes sweep forward and on the other backward?
     
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    Not ready to pull the trigger yet on a car. I know next to nothing about Porsches. Need to get educated first.

    Thanks.

    Mike
     
  14. Kds

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    #15 Kds, Mar 2, 2010
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    I was quoting an 18 month old price in Canadian dollars rounded up (roughly the last time I asked)...........$9K CAD plus 5% taxes per rotor.......not counting pads or labor.

    Regarding the wheels though........I just looked at about 20 cars online and that seems to be the case......like everyone else, I've only seen about a bazillion of the 996's in the last decade........funny 'dat.......it's the obvious stuff you never see......now if I could only figure out why. Maybe they were trying to appeal to 348 buyers ??

    (it's an F-joke.....348 owners often have their wheels on backwards)..........
     
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    Are there big differences between the 996 Turbo and the 997 Turbo? Can anybody compare the two?

    The 996 was years 1998 - 2005 and the 997 was 2005 and newer. Any years in here better than others? Things to look for or want specifically?

    Thanks.

    Mike
     
  16. ferraripete

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    one difference is that the 996 is more in your budget range. both great driving cars w/ tremendous performance. either will be great to own.

    the 997 in non-turbo trim was a big improvment but in turbo trim, the appearance is mostly limited to the headlights...the 997 looks better on the whole but that's just my opinion.

    again, the 996tt is the car for you based on your apparent budget.
     
  17. Doug

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    Porsche only makes one wheel for front and one for the back, even on a directional like the turbo. Otherwise, they would have to have a different wheel and part number for all 4 corners which would get confusing. Add that to the directional tires and you would be creating a puzzle for tire centers. They have a hard enough time getting the left to right correct.
     
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    What would be considered "fair mileage" for a car like this???? Less than how many miles? Are these expensive to keep running or are they "bullet-proof"?

    Thanks.

    Mike
     
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    any particular reason for a TT vs standard 911? a 997 is a very capable car for a 1st P driver.
     
  20. ferraripete

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    i agree with this comment...turbos are incredible speed machines but there is no question of the value you get in a clean naturally aspirated 997.
     
  21. Kds

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    Not trying to be a smartass Doug, but what would they do about the other 10,000 parts in the car ?

    Kds still scratching head over newly discovered Porsche wheel scenario.........
     
  22. UroTrash

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    Really.

    I think the Germans are smart enough to keep 4 wheels straight.

    I thought you only saw that sort of things on Neons and Sunbirds.


    On a Ferrari 348, are the fronts and backs the same size wheel?
     
  23. Kds

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    #24 Kds, Mar 2, 2010
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    On the 348 it is left side versus right........the square edged part of the spoke faces forward, and the knife edge faces backwards. Pretty common for them to be put on the wrong side of the car apparently.......seem to see it 2-3 times a year.

    See the pics here........

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136521857&postcount=4

    GOOGLE cars.com look at the 100+ available 2001-2004 996TT's...........cars with OEM rims are all like mdoan300 said...........bizarre to say the least. I know the CGT has red and blue wheel centers to tell the left from the right wheels........but totally missed this..........heh.
     
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    But is the rear a different SIZE than the front, or are they interchangeable on the same side?
     

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