Portofino Launch and picture thread

^ Is there an option to get the front grill in something other than silver/chrome? For example, black...T

 

@tomc The front grill of the Portofino is painted flat black as standard. The listed options are:
CFG1 Front Grill with Chromed Edges
CFG4 Front Grill Black Chrome Edges
CFG5 Front Grill Black Chrome
Each of those is listed at $1,687. You must pick one, they cannot be combined.

 

Thank you!
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Also thinking of dropping shields, seems "cleaner" without.
Its time to be daring.

On the grill options its hard to tell on the configerator but the PF grill is a step away from traditional egg crate alloy Ferrari grills.
Even on the Cali T you can see direct lineage from the 60s cars and so chrome edging kind of works
On the PF black chrome interior and exterior which subtly highlights vertical and horizontal lines may offer a ghost of a nod to heritage.

 

The words I used in my last post on PF grills were from the Option Price List (Nov. 30). They speak of "edges" of the grill. The ordering guide descriptions in many cases differ from those on the option list. Different translators? In the case of the grill the guide uses the word "surround", as in "Front grill with chrome surround". Looking at the pictures, it seems likely that both edge and surround are bad translations from Italian.

The grill seems to have no edges or surrounds (it is surrounded by the car body). The grill consists of a chrome horse affixed to two horizontal bars. These horizontal bars are attached to two vertical bars behind them that are attached to the vehicle. The pictures indicate that you can have all the bars painted flat black (standard), or you can opt for the horizontal bars to be chrome (CFG1), or the horizontal bars to be black chrome (CFG4), or all bars to be black chrome (CFG5). So perhaps the word "edge" means the part of the grill closest to an observer in front of the car.

My photos are B&W copier prints so I can't see fine detail but that's what it looks like. I hope this helps visualize the situation.

 

^ Thanks. Very helpful...T

 

Happy holidays tomc !
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One more, roof down profile.
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California T, Two-piece exhaust header (source: www.autoguide.com)
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Portofino, Single-piece exhaust header (source: www.autocar.co.uk)
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Oh, dear, this site is so potentially injurious to my bank account!! Graham, you are my hero! And, that pic @ night looks pretty accurate. I will show these to the wife. Thank you, again, and best wishes for the holidays and 2018...T

 

I failed to notice a small detail. California T has of course three-piece exhaust header.

 

Does anyone know the UK base price for the Portofino?

Also, does anyone have a complete list of options and price list for the Portofino?

The website configurator seems to have a number of carbon options missing, including the side skirts, front wing vents and rear light surround. So this indicates to me that other options may be missing too.

 

i have a german pricelist. Send me your E-Mail-Address to [email protected].

 

Any advantage of one over the other?

Has anyone seen journalist driving reviews of the Porto yet?

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Single-piece exhaust header is lighter, but more complex to manufacture. Ferrari claims the new headers improve the exhaust flow too. This is understandable as there are no clefts between joints and pipes can be shaped to more optimized form.

Ferrari probably chose the three-piece exhaust headers for California T because they wanted to experiment with different size turbo chargers on this first modern day turbo Ferrari.

It looks like Ferrari is using more advanced exhaust header material on Portofino too.

 

I did a bit of further research on exhaust headers in current Ferrari turbo engines. Here are the observations:

- GTC4Lusso T contains similar three-piece exhaust headers as California T.
- 488 GTB contains headers which look like single-piece items but are in fact separate from turbine housings, classifying them as two-piece headers.
- Portofino has the most advanced headers (manufacturing wise) as these are true single-piece items, incorporating also turbine housings.

 

^ Good stuff. Via several web sites, the implication seems to be that this will reduce turbo lag...T

http://fcauthority.com/2017/08/ferrari-portofino-revealed-as-the-sun-sets-on-the-california-t/

"Thanks to new pistons, con-rods, a specific engine calibration and a new intake system, the turbocharged V8 engine finds a new character in the Ferrari Portofino. Additionally, a one-piece-cast exhaust header helps eliminate turbo lag and a Variable Boost Management adjusts torque delivery depending on the current gear."

 

Tom...are you getting an itch here with all of these questions? I’m getting excited that you may be putting an order together soon!


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That's a good looking spec - Congrats

 

Not soon, but in the future, hopefully.
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While I understand both views, I'm inclined to the latter. It is a new model. And not only because it has a different platform, but because it is build on a totally new platform. The manufacturing processes have been revolutionized, with 40% less parts in the chassis. And it is not just the chassis, the list of changes targeting efficiency improvements is extensive. Wheelbase and engine block are pretty much all that has been carried over from California T.

Portofino is the base of future Ferraris.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/ferrari-portofino-lightweight-tech-influence-all-future-models

 

I'm pretty sure that is correct. And the PF is the first use of the new modular architecture...

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/ferrari-plans-hybrid-models-and-new-common-architecture

 

Interesting article. Had somehow missed that.

 

Its not only new chassis technology, its an entirely new frame. The examples you gave are not accurate in terms of discussing platform. 360-430 was improved engine, suspension and gearbox. But the platform is the same. They designed those platforms to last about 10 years with the evolution model somewhere in the middle of the cycle- such as the 430. Going by exterior dimensions is misleading because they can design a bumper- a hollow element- to a different shape that alters the dimensions. This is not like the F12 to 812. F12 to 812 is like 360-430; or 458 to 488. The Cali T-PF is like 599 to F12. Whole new platform.