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possable for Massa to take of/out Alanso?

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  1. chaa

    chaa F1 Veteran

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    I remember in the 90s when things did not go shueys way so he took out a driver (was it Hill??) becourse he knew that he could not get the result that he wanted anyother way;) And IIRC he was not the only one;)
    So i have to ask this question becourse i am twisted:D Do ya think Massa could get the order to take out Alanso in an er.....incedent, to pave the way for the number one ferrari driver:D At this rate shuey will always be just behind Alanso. Come on som of us must be wishing it:D:D
     
  2. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

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    Not only would he have to do this on 3-4 occasions to make a difference in the championship, it would be way too obvious even once.

    I think even Ferrari fans would be upset if this happened.
     
  3. Scuderia Ferrari F50

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    I'm not saying I would support this type of cheating, and I'm sure Massa would much rather finish the race rather than be wrecked with Alonso. I'm not going to lie though, I would be happy to see anyone take out Alonso.
     
  4. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    Unlikely. First Massa would gain nothing,... his reputation would be hurt. second, team ferrari would likely lose total points (2nd and 4th points are more than 1st and DNF). Not to mention, reputation. Ferrari team wants constructors championship, and likely cares less about drivers title.
     
  5. Meister

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    Massa would have to first "catch up to" FA to take him out.... Haven't seen much of that so far =)
     
  6. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    And MS should have been banned from F1 racing for that egregious conduct! To hit another car/driver on purpose is not only cheating, but off a race track it is considered assault with a deadly weapon...a felony. But, I guess even F1 allows it's sports heros to get away with almost anything...so sad.
     
  7. classic308

    classic308 F1 Veteran

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    Massa already had his chance to take out/hold up FA at the first race of the season. Thank God he didn't as I don't like it; that's why I am not a big fan of Senna-he took Prost out at the 1990 Japanese GP on purpose.

    Doesn't belong in sports at any level....
     
  8. Forza355

    Forza355 Formula 3

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    I wouldn't want Massa or Schumacher (or anyone else) to try it.

    Not only is it cheating, it's the riskiest form of cheating.

    As much as I want to see Alonso lose the points lead, the last thing I'd ever want to see is him injured in any way.

    He's making the races as thrilling for me as Schumacher is.
     
  9. kirill

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    Massa to Super Aguri ?
     
  10. Forza355

    Forza355 Formula 3

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    I don't think he's that bad!
     
  11. Koby

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  12. TheBigEasy

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    I think it is agreed that intentional wrecking wouldn't and shouldn't ever happen.


    However, what are the rules for FA pulling out of the pits behind Massa, how slow clould he drive before getting a blue flag while MS was on hot laps?
     
  13. Sean F.

    Sean F. F1 Rookie

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    He had the line, he did was 99% of the good racing drivers, including Prost, Piquet, Senna, Mansell and any other driver would have done. He turned in. Hill got excited and stuck his nose where it didn't belong.

    Lets not forget the FIA trying to rig the championship in Hill's favor.
     
  14. tifosi12

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    You beat me to it.

    He almost did it once, where only some good luck on Alonso's side prevented it. Could easily happen again.
     
  15. bill365

    bill365 F1 Rookie

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    Nissan got caught paying "Hit Men" participating in SCCA competition, to T-Bone the car that would eventually go on, in spite of their efforts, to take the win, a while back. It was so blatant, at the dirver's party the night before the race, the two drivers were laughing, wearing buttons that said,"Designated Hitter." The two drivers involved and Nissan were slapped on the wrist, short suspensions from competing, and that was it.

    Another major name in sports car racing, using multi-car entries, must have employed similar tactics, from my observations. They were displaying a habit of entering a turn at a speed much too fast to actually make it through, without diving to the inside of the leader and pushing him off the track from the inside. Exactly as above, only no penalties.
     
  16. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    agreed.............
     
  17. jk0001

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    What we need is to have JV, JPM and Alonso all crash into each other. Then they can all sit on the armco and cry together.
     
  18. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    :D

    JV got a good slap in the face for talking too much...he had a drive thru for overtaking under yellow flags. how can he hold superlicense and not even knowing a basic, simple rule? bravo JV.
     

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