postition of tires for concours

They sure as hell shouldn't be doing that.

I have never seen or heard of a judge at a concour doing that.

I have seen them do some pretty stupid things, but not that.

 

The only thing that a concours judge should check is that the correct sized tires are on the car. It doesn't matter what brand they are or what position they are in, only that they are same size as what was originally on the car when it was new.

 

No wonder I never win!?

 

I agree, what would be the basis for doing that?!? That's a totally random and made-up judging "standard."

That's not how the tires were installed in the factory, not how the car left the factory, not how the car sat on the showroom and not how the car was delivered new.

 

Although don't tires come from the factory with a yellow dot on them, which indicates the lightest part of the tire? So you're supposed to line up the yellow dot with the valve stem to help with balancing.

That's what I recall hearing, although with modern tire production and balancing it probably doesn't make a huge difference.

Still, if that's the way it is done, I guess I could see a concours judge looking for that. At least that is some kind of real standard, not some made up thing with the lettering on the tire lining up with the horsey, etc.

 

It is far more important that all screw and bolt heads are "lined up".

I know two guys that do this.

 

Make sure you get the oeriod correct blue dot to put on the car also!
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5312&highlight=blue+dot+tire
Good for a few laughs...

BT

 

While in college I spent a few years in the tire industry and never heard of such a thing.

Judges do not look for such things. Even if we were supposed to there are much easier things to find.

 

Do they check the air in the tyres to make sure it was sourced from Maranello?

 

Don't know if it's true or not, but I've heard it quite a bit over the years.

Did a quick search, and it looks like a lot of people at least talk about it:

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=yellow+dot+tires+valve+stem&btnG=Google+Search

 

Another of the 1001 reasons I will never enter a car in a concours.

 

Mike

I think if you have two on the front and two on the back you'll be ok!

 

When I changed tires on my F40, I had the original air pumped out prior to de-mounting the old rubber... when I inflated the new tires, I used the original factory air. I videod the process to prove I did this in case it was ever questioned.

 

You too? I do that and I know a guy that does too. Never thought about filming it so I could prove it though. I just thought the service records would be enough.... But I bet you're right to film.

Nothing beats factory parts, including air!

 

I'd like a copy of that video for verification purposes at the National Foundation For Concours Vehicles.

 

PM me your address, and I'll make you a copy.

 

That's easy.

It's Rifledriver's shop!

He maintains all the concours records there!!!

 

Actually it's not just a rumor but pretty standard with many judges. And even though it may not be a written deduction at certain concourse events, it can sway a judge when two cars are pretty much equal. When I first started detailing professionally, a Porsche old timer taught me to line up the wheel crests to the valve stem and the wheel lock to be in line also. The same would apply to other horses', etc. It may seem silly and trivial, but once you see them aligned any other way seems off.

Matt

 

How much National judging have you done?

Sorry no sale.

If anyone is actually doing that they are rare and exactly the type of judge we are actively trying to get rid of.

Again, I have seen some stupid judging but never something that stupid.

They save that crap for the hot rod shows.

 

Dear Ferraristi,

Wait a minute....I do that.

On my 91 Testarossa, I have the valve stem at the 12oclock position, the horsie is exactly upright while on the slight angle to match the grill horsie.

TIP, match the valve stem to the between the ears of the horsie while the bottom of the hoof is exactly horizontal.

....no, I'm not kidding.

Before you head out to the concours, jack the car up and make sure all the wheels have the valve stem at 12oclock. When you get to the concours, roll the car in your spot until it all lines up a 12oclock.

....no, I'm no kidding.

....no, there aren't any fingerprints on my stainless steel appliances in my kitchen either.

In 2008, my 48,500 mile TR came first in the 12 cyl class in Sarasota FL. beating out 8k & 12k cars.

BTW, on my Lamborghini, you line up the OZ racing writing at 12 oclock with the bull centered so the "S" shape of the tail swing is horizontal

....OK, I need medication....I admit it.


Shamile

Freeze....Miami Vice !

 

I'm not surprised that you're single.

 

That's not what the original poster is talking about. He's talking about mounting the tire to the wheel in a certain position.

BTW, a "concourse" is a terminal at an airport. A "concours" is a clean car competition.