pro help and opinions needed- touch up vs. repaint

No offence, but your car is one of, if not, the cheapest, and least desireable Ferrari models available. This is just a fact, nothing more.....and again, I mean no offence. The fact that you enjoy it is what counts.

Touch it up or blend it in best as possible and be done with it, but take photos beforehand for evidence........there is a lot more that a prospective buyer at resale time will be worrying about on a cheap 30 year old F-car than a scratch.

I believe that asking your insurance company to pay for something you are at fault for is just asking for an increase in your rates.

Welcome to F-chat BTW.........one of the best car forums online IMHO.

 

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=161866

 

If its original laquer touching up a small panel will be very difficult to match, most shops use 2 stage base clear today, you can have problems with the repair not matching color as the paint fades at different rates down the road as well, many older cars have had poor spot repairs in the past as well but it usually requires a keen eye to tell, my first Ferrari my 328 had a more orange targa bar and darker fenders from old touch ups which I fixed, I planned on having my BB just touched up in spots but the shop owner pointed out all the issues I could have matching up spots so I painted the whole car


The problem when paint is old unless its very nice paint respraying a panel often requires a complete repaint and maybe a strip if you have issues of crazing or cracking with the filler, a complete strip would be $10,000+ depending on how much of the car you disassemble.

If the paint is super nice they may be able to spot blend a panel, but matching the texture of original paint can be an issue as well, depends onhow picky you are so it may not matter anyway.

 

Brian.......

I've been in the car bizz for 19 years now........and have sold over 900 Porsches as well as a few F-cars. So I will say the same thing again, but in a different way.

http://www.ferraris-online.com/Articles/SCM_0006.html

I suspect that today this figure is closer to $10,000...........and I would certainly like to be the proverbial fly on the wall when the conversation about totally repainting your non-collectible car for $10K (with a wholesale value of $15-18K and a retail value of $20-25K) takes place in the insurance companies office. You really want go get on their radar screen eh ? Let them repaint the fender if you are so inclined....because I will bet money that you will not get more. If you want to pay for it out of pocket I'd also say don't do it.

18 months ago I sold a 348 spider to another dealer for some cash and 2 x 308 GTB's. One had a stunning interior and exterior patina....it was like a new car, the Blue Sera paint was fabulous.......seriously. No books or records though......and it ran OK. The other was a Rossa Corsa car with various panels repainted, dents, scratches, etc, that had been wet sanded out, pushed out and touched up as professionally as possible. From 5 feet away the car was stunning.....from one foot it was obvious it was tired and semi-original paint. This car had an engine that leaked down at 5%.....recent belts and tensioners, perfect carbs and ignition and was in the best state of tune of it's life....it ran like a raped ape.....but no books and records.

I ended up wholesaling the blue car to another dealer after 3 months because of a lack of interest.....and have sold the solid but excellent running one twice now for market value. 308's have a desireablity factor that is 10 times greater than 308GT4's......save your money bud.......and don't try to spend theirs......because it will not matter down the road.

Does that help ?.......having original or a perfect repaint on a 308 GT4 is not going to matter when the time comes. The market for this car does not demand, nor pay, for it. If it absolutely bothers you and you are going to keep it forever and give it to your kid......then spend away.......but otherwise......rationalize.

 

This explanation is a little easier to swallow. The other one even hurt my feelings and I don't know the other guy.

 

Brian, don't let anyone put your car down. GT4 are very desirable cars, many people would choose one over almost any other 308.
According to the latest Forza magazine Gt4 value are from $20'000 to $45'000, and it's known that one just sold for mid 40's just last week.


Rocco

 

what makes you think your collector car insurance is gonna pay to repaint your car? they aren't. i just went through this. the best you'll do is maybe 50%. and that's only if the shop doing the work can prove they can't blend it. and then it's a maybe. they def aren't paying 10k to repaint a maybe 20k car. your dreamin.

 

i have never met these people.

 

I would not repaint. 308gt4s are desirable cars and more so in original condition, including original paint. You have to weigh the risk of overspray and dust compromising your interior, undercairrage and engine compartment. A previous owner of my car had the paint "touched up" and I am still cleaning overspray.(http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136927650&postcount=431)

 

You need a better paint shop if they are unable to color match, IMO.

And further food for thought if selling is that IMO I'd rather buy a car with an honest "it got scratched" answer than one that had been recently totally resprayed, hiding God knows what.....

Sorry to hear you are having such a tough time selling early 308GTBs, Kds ....even blue ones....maybe you should start handling ones with complete Records and Ownership History...


Or..........just stick with those little Pcars. Everybody needs a specialty.

 

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Mario ran his hand across the crazed paint, at one corner of the roof........got very quiet for a moment of recollection, and said:

"This is a good car."

As I had owned it only one day at that point, I was heartened by his opinion. There were many much newer Ferraris there that day he walked by, to talk to me.

 

Brian is also correct on the fact that GT4s were thought of as a better handling car for the track, than the 308GTB.

At the end of the day, I think partial painting is fine...that's how I repair all mine, eventually you have fresh paint all around, the way folks drive around here!