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Problems with 1-4 cyl. Not working at all

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  1. Leonas

    Leonas Rookie

    Feb 19, 2011
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    Hello,
    Have some problems with right bank cylinders (1-4). They just stopped working...
    I've checked the ignition coils - doesn't have a spark there. Not sure if fuel injectors are opening too.
    I thought that I have problems with blown ECU, but tried to change ir with the left cyl. bank ECU - nothing changed. Left side was working as before, right side still 'dead'. Disconnected the plug from ECU, tested if I have power supply. Yes it has. Although the right ECU had one more extra cable with power supply. Strange...
    Some additional and interesting info: then I try to start an engine (turn key to the ignition pos.) on the dashbord I can watch only the 5-8 CEL ans 5-8 slow down lights turning on. It seems like that the right bank ECU is 100% dead, but it isn't...
    And some more extra info: then I was going from my place to repair shop all 8 cyl. started to work for few minutes (turning the 5-8 CEL on for few seconds). Opened the engine lid, closed and again 4 cyl there gone...
    I've tested in car allmost all sensors directly and it seems that all are working properly.
    Without detailed repair manual (with wiring diagrams) I can't find what and there I can check. There can I find these manuals?

    Now car works only on 4 cyl... Have some suggestions?


    Sorry for my english... It's not my native language ;)
     
  2. sdbmwfxr

    sdbmwfxr Karting

    Feb 25, 2011
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    Try swapping main relays
     
  3. Leonas

    Leonas Rookie

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    floor fuse and relay box?
    Been there... done that...
     
  4. plugzit

    plugzit F1 Veteran
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    348 or 355?
    Sounds like a bad connection somewhere or a bad wire.
     
  5. Leonas

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    #5 Leonas, Nov 3, 2011
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    f355. 2,7 motronic.
    I'm thinking about bad connection too, but there shood I start? I guess I should check underneath the floor fuse and relay box?
    But it's a little bit strange that on the cable (to ECU) plug I have all the power supplying cables (even one more then at left side ECU's plug)... And still don't have working ECU...

    Edit: HELP!!! I haven't done any km's/miles in 7 past days - I'll fall in depression if another 7 days will past the same... :D

    I need to drive this car of perfection!
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  6. tamf328

    tamf328 Formula Junior

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    Crank sensor???
     
  7. Leonas

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    Tested only the resistance; almost the same - the difference was only in few ohms. Tomorrow i'll check the whole signal with engine running.
     
  8. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    It has been a long time for me with 348's. There is a screw in plug above left shock tower area just under that flat part where you would most likely park a tool when you are working on the car. Also check ground to the valve cover right under the fuel rail on effected side. 10mm hex nut about 1/4" black wire.
     
  9. crazyspeed

    crazyspeed Karting

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    If there are 2 coil wires...probably a bad coil wire on right bank?
     
  10. plugzit

    plugzit F1 Veteran
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    Swap coils side-to-side, see if it changes. Then do igniters the same. Igniters are sometimes a problem, and can be periodic as you described. Good-lookin' car!
     
  11. Leonas

    Leonas Rookie

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    been there, done that... nothing changes... Thanks for advice.

    I'll check it as soon as possible. Thanks
     
  12. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    From this description you could have a bad catalytic converter temperature ecu, or a bad thermocouple. Try disconnecting the catalytic converter ecu from the main wiring loom and see if the "dead" bank fires.

    That's my guess.
     
  13. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I thought the OP had a 348. But looks like 355 2.7 motronic. If like the 348 then the exhaust ECU (aka slow down ECU) disconnect will not throw a CEL like on 2.7 348's. It is the 5.2 motronic (shared with the 550) that looks for the SDECU and will throw a code and MIL.
     
  14. Leonas

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    #14 Leonas, Nov 22, 2011
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2011
    Problem solved. Bad connection in the fuse box. Soldered every connection in fuse box and checked all the wires.

    Thanks for your advices!
     

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