Proposed FerrariChat.com Rules of Conduct...

Rules look fine ...might want to communicate a more clear definition of sexually explicit, i.e. rated X,rated R, PG13?

 

good point racerette. imo, either you have a zero-tolerance policy for "risque" content, which is not the case, or you have to spell it out clearly.

doody.

 

This I think needs to be more clearly defined. Because we are typing you can't really get the sense of what someone is saying. There have been some heated debates on Fchat, and opinions and emotions run high. I would hate to see someone banned because they disagree or question someone elses view.

 

I vote to keep sexually explicit in the BIKINI THREAD , or Missing Bikini Thread as the case may be

 

Where's the BIKINI thread???!!!!

 

the US Supreme Court wasn't able to wordsmith something pretty much exactly like this

MPAA movie ratings are primarily a US thing, and the standards change fairly frequently, fwiw.

i think you need to be explicit: no genital areas. no female nipples.

are sex acts okay if they don't depict the above? probably not. and so on and so forth.

doody.

 

With these two, you really should eliminate the P & R subforum. Quite simply, everything in there will fall under someone's definition of -phobic or bigoted, and there's too many thin skinned people that view disagreement as slander or attack (especially lawyer-type people)

If I say I don't like Christians, does that make me -phobic?

If I try to convert someone to Christianity, does that bigoted against agnostics?

If I say "I like big butts", am I misogynist? What if I'm quoting song lyrics?

I fear that this will just once again give the PC "the only acceptable tolerance is tolerance for my viewpoint" another tool to limit speech

So other marques and their owners are fair game -- time to bash those chest toupee gold chain Lame-bo owners

 

I am not sure I like without warning or appeal, if you have not been warned then you should be allowed to appeal on the basis you didnt know you were doing something wrong. If you have been warned, then no appeal should be allowed.

I especially do not like no explanation, I think anytime you get kicked, you should be told why.

Having said that, the rules are clear to me and common sense, they will never apply to me so I guess I can live with the parts I don't like.

Mike (who thinks if he has the right to say this should finally join and will do so, asap)

 

I think they're pretty good as stands. They are only needed for a small minority of the population. You lay out the worst case scenario and go from there. I think most people here know what the boundaries are and stay well within them. The ones who don't will be found out pretty quickly!!

I think if you try to get too specific you will get bogged down in technicalities pretty quick. Keep the rules broad and let it go from there.

 

1. *Looks good to me... i'm gonna have trouble trying to refrain from posting bigoted, misogynistic and/or phobic material, but i'll try...
   *Sexually explicit material might be a bit of a conscious effort not to post, but i'll do my best...
   *Not abusing the site for commercial purposes will be a tad trying...
   *i'll really, really try not to troll the site with irritating or agitating comments regarding Ferrari and/or its caretakers, fans or owners...
   *i'm really gonna struggle with keeping myself from personally attacking, defaming, libeling or maligning other members, but i'll be putting my best foot forward in an effort to be on my best behavior...

Just for sh!ts and giggles, can we get a clearer definition of the last one, what constitutes a violation of it and so forth...?

 

re: "sexually explicit" - I think it was the late Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart who once said "I can't define 'pornography,' but I know it when I see it."

 

this solution works fine for me.....

james

 

whoa!...... just found this thread...........cool!

 

Rob
Thanks for putting the rules of conduct down "on paper".
You might have each person agree to be bound by the rules once, only, on postings from a certain date.
Philip

 

I think there should be a ban time-period or some sort of cooling off period.

I would hate to see some of the 2,000+ post members get kicked for a simple mis-calculation or error in judgement.

It all seems a little heavy handed.

What happened to 3 strikes?

 

Works. Simple, easy to understand.

"Sexually explicit" works, if you look at the definition, it is clear.

"a: fully revealed or expressed without vagueness, implication, or ambiguity: leaving no question as to meaning or intent b: open in the depiction of nudity or sexuality"

Not to mention the fact that a quick lap through the bikini thread shows you the limits, and could be referenced as such in the rules.

 

in my opinion, it is time to definitely do something. Some recent threads I have viewed were downright obscene, with cursing, accusations, alluding to one's mother's activities etc... There is no excuse for such language just because you disagree with someone else's opinions. It used to be that common sense would prevail, but due to the number of posts, some were simply obscene.

The Bikini Thread is ok, and if someone doesnt wish to go there, they dont have to since they know its content. But to open a thread dealing with opinions on a presidential debate or some political snaffu and to be bombarded with curse words is totally out of line.

For those who must curse, there are other websites. This shouldnt be one of them. This is a chat room for Ferrari owners who care about the cars and want to interact with others who own them and care for them too.

My 2 cents worth.

 

A couple rules of thumb:

• If you are talking negatively about the FChatter, rather than about the topic at hand, you should probably revise your post (no matter what he or she just posted).
• If you are saying something insulting, even if just insulting their post rather than them, you should ask yourself whether the insults actually add to you argument... if not, you should probably revise your post.

Keep in mind that people will always be more impressed with a polite, well-reasoned argument over a trash-talk barrage of insults. And we're here to talk about Ferraris... not to talk about each other's faults.

 

Brian.

Excellent post.

It'll never happen without wholesale banning, but an excellent starting point none the less.

It would certainly improve the demeanor of our exchanges, particularly in P&R, and I'd love to see it happen.

Dave

 

I vote to give Art immunity. It seems like quite a few people have it out for him, and "warranted or not" I think its only a matter of time before hes reported or doesn't post anymore and I'll be sad.