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Prugna: how early for the 308s?

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  1. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
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    FRANCE
    Oh my...been called a Guru is a strange feeling...
    What I know is that I have seen a carbed '78 308 GTS here in France which was Prugna indeed in an add, for which the owner was adamant that it was an original color.
    One thing is sure and established, the color existed indeed even before the 308 appeared on the production line.

    As for exhaustivity of information about colors, lists of colors, etc...what was the full exact color range at a given point in time is very difficult to say.
    Lots of persons are trying to assemble what they believe is a complete range, but I guess that is difficult: as far as a color existed once on a car, you could probably have it ordered (some kind of "tailoring to suit") if you were ready to wait for the car to be painted that way.
    The reverse side is that here at least, the information available from the official importer of the seventies is rather sketchy. Charles Pozzi at Levallois is still here doing business and still has "some" information about cars sold by them. Not easy to access due to data Protection laws, plus not always exhaustive, but nothing from the seventies is on computers, only on small papers; most of the time the exact name of the color ordered for a car is not the precise reference from the painters (Glidden salchi) but only a generic designation like "dark blue"...

    Rgds
     
  2. Sandeman

    Sandeman Karting

    Dec 27, 2010
    59
    Belgium
    Is somebody have any idea with the 361A paint code for a 308 GTSi of 1980' US Version ???
    Thanks
    Frederic
     
  3. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
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    Doesn't look like a paint code to me, or not a full paint code?
    Glidden Salchi paints were labelled "NumberNumber-Letter-NumberNumberNumber"
    Example: "20-R-351" = "Rosso Bordeaux".
    But that could well be an assembly number? Where does that number comes from?

    Rgds
     
  4. godabitibi

    godabitibi F1 Veteran

    Jan 11, 2012
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    Papineauville, Quebec
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    Claude Laforest
    If I remember correctly I may have read the same article about the body color and assembly code that is reffered in some of the above post. But from my memory the stamped code was for assembly number and they said that if you lift the metal tab you would SEE the original color Under it. Not the color code. This tab was probably fold after the car was painted but before the black painting was done.
     
  5. Sandeman

    Sandeman Karting

    Dec 27, 2010
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    Belgium
    #30 Sandeman, Jul 24, 2014
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    This code is graved closed to the expansion/Header tank. Here is new pictures of the paint code or something else of my Black US 308 GTSi of 1980'
    Thanks
    Frederic
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  6. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
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    This is the "Assembly Number" of your car, it has nothing to do with a paint code.
    It means that your car was the 361th GTS"i" manufactured for the North American Market.
    The paint code is on an adhesive label that is glued under the engine compartment lid / hatch, with the name of the paint manufacturer.

    Rgds
     
  7. Sandeman

    Sandeman Karting

    Dec 27, 2010
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    Belgium
    Many thanks for this information, everyday I learn something news on this great Ferrari forum !!!
    Frederic
     
  8. finnerty

    finnerty F1 World Champ

    May 18, 2004
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    Ahhhhh..... that's it ! Now, you have jogged my memory as to the earlier discussions.

    I believe you are absolutely correct on this. A sample of the original paint color is underneath the tab --- not the paint code itself.

    Unfortunately, it tends to rub / wear off over time on most of the cars --- mine included. But, if you look real closely at the pics I posted above, you can just make out the remains of a very slight tinge of red (which was the original color of my car). Harder to see from photos, but in person, you can definitely make it out.
     
  9. Green308GTSi

    Green308GTSi Formula Junior

    Nov 17, 2004
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    Philadelphia
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    Barry Cross
    #34 Green308GTSi, Jul 25, 2014
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    Sorry for the delay, I've had a very hard time posting pictures Plus I've got got a lot going on and this took a little research!

    I don't know what number you have steel stamped but I agree with David, they would not steel stamp a paint code into the chassis because they put paint code stickers on the engine cover.

    I have photographed the same stamp on my 308 and haven't figured out what its pertaining to.

    My 308 has completed the Classiche Program and that number is not photographed in my documentation. Here is my engine #, Gearbox # & Vin #. The only other number is on the door panel which may be the production number. I hop this helps!

    Barry
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  10. finnerty

    finnerty F1 World Champ

    May 18, 2004
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    No apology required Barry :)

    I am curious, on your stamped location there, are you able to detect any hint of your car's original green paint color ?

    Also, curious about Classiche ---- Do you know whether a car that has been re-painted (particularly to a non-original color) is eligible for certification ?

    I am assuming not ?
     
  11. noblesteed

    noblesteed Formula Junior

    Sep 9, 2011
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    Oklahoma
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    Brantley
    There's an 81' Prugna in OKC. No metallic. It's a violinist in the Philharmonic.

     
  12. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 26, 2005
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    Jon
    Non-metallic? Interesting, I thought they all were...
     
  13. GT4 Joe

    GT4 Joe Formula Junior

    Oct 19, 2010
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    Dana Point, Ca.
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    Joe Williams
    They are. The closest matching color might be Rosso Bordeaux?
     

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