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  1. 1_can_dream

    1_can_dream F1 Veteran

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    So what's the opinions on the new fuel rules for Q3? Looks pretty dangerous to me with Heidfeld weaving through all the cars that were trying to save fuel after their flying lap. Personally I think it was much more exciting with everyone sprinting for a fast lap after time expires.
     
  2. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    it was dangerous, but it's the team's jb to inform the drivers about certain drivers still on flying lap.
     
  3. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Got to be changed ,looks like a disaster waiting to happen IMO..
     
  4. 355

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    Agreed, its only a matter of time.
     
  5. PhilNotHill

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    Thanks for bringing this up. good thread.

    Just another stupid rule. I know the FIA wants cars to be slower, but this is ridiculous...and dangerous. aren't race cars meant to be driven FAST?

    as a fan it's not much fun watching an F1 car go as slow as it can go without stalling. Yawn.

    Hope they change this before somebody gets killed.

    At the speeds F1 cars go, it's like having cars parked on the track around blind curves. imagine the worst case scenario: nine cars "parked" on the track and one driver still trying to qualify. looks like a potential nightmare waiting to happen IMVHO.

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  6. jknight

    jknight F1 Veteran

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    There's always been cool-down laps after qualifying. If a driver opts to go out at the last minute they should be smart enough to know that there are drivers on cool-down. Maybe they need spotters like in Nascar and IRL if they can't utilize their sophisticated pitwall equipment more efficiently. They just need to go back to the way qualifying used to be many years ago. Perhaps they need a lesson from other series' methods of qualifying - LMS for instance has a 20 minute qualifying session for P1's & P2's and a similar session for GT1's and GT2's. . . works quite well - 32 cars will be competiting in less than two weeks at Cataluyna in P1/P2 Qualifying - that's 10 more cars than an F1 grid competiting for pole position in ONLY 20 minutes. Something wrong with this picture in F1.

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    F1 has become making rules for the sake of making rules - Phil, you are absolute correct !!
     
  7. PhilNotHill

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    Good points.

    It looks like they are going way slower than a cool down lap. Alonso said 60 kph. in his interview.
     
  8. Modena360-66

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    Stupid rule, their super-slow pace to save fuel its obviously too dangerous..
     
  9. LightGuy

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    Monaco is going to be a trip.
     
  10. 1_can_dream

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    Agreed, there's a difference between a cool down lap and crawling around the track to save your race fuel. If the cars were on the cool down lap they would still be moving around the track at a relatively quick pace and hopefully watching for blue flags to know they need to be ready to get out of the way rather than watching the RPM's and fuel gauges.
     
  11. Simon^2

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    running qual 3 with your race fuel is BS. Just a means to make it less certain who will be on pole. That's it.. only serves to get people in the stands on quali day...

    I say let them run light, and put whatever fuel they want in the car on race day...

    And while we're at it.... having tu run at least 1 set of both compound tires per race is stupid... get rid of that too...

    Not to mention guessing if it will rain.. i.e., running quali in the dry with a race set up... more stupidity.
     
  12. Chaos

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    all good points.
    while we are at it, lets get rid of the stupid 3 part quali setup and go back to the old tried and tested 1hr system that worked for yrs
     
  13. SRT Mike

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    I personally always liked the 1 hour open system that they used (IMO successfully) for years. I think it's good that they got rid of "qualifying only parts" (like super lightweight suspensions that won't last a full race, etc), but most of the rest of the changes were for the worse. I liked the commentators having a chance to talk about the quali and the events of the time since the last race, and then the excitement of quali would build to a crescendo towards the end with cars constantly outqualifying each other.

    The 3-segment quali I can live with... but the fuel rules are STUPID.

    Thing is, the "they just need to stay off the racing line" argument doesn't work, because every time a turn comes up, the "racing line" moves from the outside to the inside of the track and back to the outside. So all cars going through that turn must cross the "racing line" to get around the track - no other way around. When there is a speed differential of 100 or 150mph, it's highly likely that there may not be a guy in your mirror at first but one may appear right quick just as you are crossing his path (the racing line).

    It's immensely dangerous and I hope they do something about it before the next race. It always amazes me how they come up with these harebrained new ideas and don't consider the effect on the teams and how it will play out on track.
     
  14. kraftwerk

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    Precisely ....
     
  15. jknight

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    Read this earlier on one of the sports car site I frequent:

    Moves are already afoot to ensure that the events during qualifying for the Malaysian grand prix do not occur again.

    It is believed that the proposed solution to the situation, that has been sparked by the tweaked qualifying format this year, is to impose a maximum time limit for drivers to complete their slowing-down laps.

    The pitwall timing monitors have often recorded drivers as having stopped on track, so slow have they been making their way back to parc ferme after qualifying.

    It is understood that the new rule, also applying to the procedure whereby cars form up on the dummy grid before a race, could be introduced on the grounds of safety by race director Charlie Whiting as quickly as the forthcoming Bahrain grand prix next month.

    This gives them a couple weeks to get a new plan into action.

    Carol
     
  16. PhilNotHill

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    +1000

    where can I buy some popcorn futures?? LOL :D
     

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