Qualifying change?

Interesting and you got the jist right:

Starting with the Nuerburgring GP there will be only one qualifying session on Saturday. The order of the cars is the reversal of the previous GP's results. The cars will do single laps and in full race configuration.

In essence we're going back to what we had last year, but this time only with one session. The article further states that the teams were already unhappy at Bahrain and this new proposal came from Ron Dennis and was accepted by all teams therefore meeting the requirements of the Concorde agreement. Other proposals from Briatore and Ferrari were not accepted.

 

More circus type Mickey Mouse rule changes!
Another reason why the 2005 season holds no value.

 

Your beloved team agreed to this change.

I liked the aggregate format for various reasons, but mostly for the fact, that session 1 was like the good ol' days with drivers going flat out in qualifying trim. That is now gone and we're back to a somewhat meaningless session where theoretically a Minardi on fumes could snatch pole.

 

I second that...the flying lap was quite entertaining and I am upset that it will be eliminated.

 

According to "Auto Motor + Sport" it is a done deal.

I agree with you btw, that this is a fairly good source. Not the best, that would be "Motorsport aktuell", but still pretty good.

 

That is of course unless Ferrari wins then it will be the greatest season ever!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The aggregate deal had to go. It was generally disliked, at least by me. . I also didn't like the final qualifying on sunday either. I really would like it to go back to the old days, open session, low tanks, new tires, let's see what you got. I can deal with one set of tire for the race but i feel qualifying tires should come back as well as open sessions. Not a big fan of parc ferme right after qualifying either. they should have qualifying and race set ups.

 

Agreed on all except for the qualifying tires: You can only bring those back if there is no tire war or you compromise safety. As long as you have more than one tire manufacturer it is a wise idea to use racing tires for qualifying.

 

I'm not really sure how Q tires affect safetly but i'll buy that.

 

Qualyfying tires = super grip = high speeds in corners = if you loose it, you buy the farm

race tires = long duration compound = hard compound = less grip etc etc

 

That's were driver skill comes in. Isn't the point the make the car go as fast as it can?

 

Whenever there are discussions about F1 safety, it is all about how to reduce the cornering speeds, making the run off areas in corners bigger etc. The straight line speed of the cars barely bothers anybody, it is all about the corners. That's why skirts were banned and that's why grooved tires were introduced and that's why Tilke builds all new tracks with the same old same old medium speed turns. A qualifying tire would face the same issues.

 

While this might be true, the idea behind a qualifying tire would be to fit with the rules. There is probably no way you could use those hard tires for a effective hot lap. While a Q tire would increase cornering speeds I wonder by just how much. If you make them just a tad softer that what they are now the difference would not be so great.

 

My beloved team agreed to change it because their suggested format was not approved. there is only so much Ferrari can do. Anything the team suggests is thrown out because none of the other teams want them to win and the first two jack asses that stand up their and yell FOUL are Paul Stoddart and Eddie Jordan!

 

If Ferrari can mount a come back and Michael Schumacher can win the World Campionship it will prove that despite unfair Mickey Mouse circus rules designed to give Ferrari a short hand, Ferrari are still the greatest team in F1. Either way, if any other team win the World Championship it will be a hollow victory and not a real championship.

PS: Ferrari chat while waiting in airport lounges is fun!

 

I can't even respond to that, i'm laughing too hard. So how about those yankees............LMAO!

 

The Concorde agreement is supposed to stabilize rule changes so if you want an impromptu change like this, you need unanimous approval from all teams. So if SF doesn't like it, they can simply veto the proposal and that'll be the end of it.

The article doesn't mention Minardi or Jordan, it only mentions a majority of teams as in favor of the change. However my guess would be, particularly those two teams would have probably preferred the system used until now because it gives them a 2nd opportunity to showcase their cars in single car qualifying. Just my guess.

PS: Have a safe flight!

 

I know that Scuderia Ferrari under the concorde agreement can veto a proposal. However, Jean Todt has said on several occasions that Ferrari cannot veto any thing it does not like. Nothing would get accomplished and F1 would not move forward. So Ferrari has to settle for second best regulations because if they veto a rule change then they are considered the bad guys and first to the microphone in front of the pres is Paul Stoddart yelling foul!

 

Ok, I got your point.

Question is however, whether anybody still listens to Stoddart after Melbourne?

 

Stoddart unfortunately also has Veto powers. He missuses them. The minute Ferrari state something or propse something everyone pounces on it and says NO! Regardless if the idea makes sense or not.

Stoddart will suffer as a result of Melbourne. In his point of view he was justified by what he did. But when you come out with regulation spec cars the day after a circus show, you lose all credibility.

I really want to see the 1 hour qualification format from 2000 return. This single lap stuff is incredibly mundane and stupid!

PS: Flight cancelled... wait list for next flight... I love flying!

 

The only thing bothering me at all about this season is the never ending list of excuses by imperial83 until season 2006 begins. LOL!

Ferrari is perfect and never makes mistakes, so sayeth imperial. So it must be the rules. Yeah, thats it.

 

Swiss Blick confirmed the changes to qualifying btw. It really is a done deal starting at Nuerburgring.