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Quattroporte III catch-all thread

Discussion in 'Maserati' started by Quattroporte3, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. Mexico074

    Mexico074 Formula Junior

    Aug 14, 2008
    985
    Harriman, TN USA
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    Michael Demyanovich
    Hello bski7908.. I am there is well.. I have removed the central fuse/electronics box from the footwell, took everything out
    and repainted the box.. Rust seems to be an issue with the fuse/electronics box! I was lucky enough some time ago to find
    a spare box with just about everything still in it.. But agree, it needs to come out to clean-up the passenger footwell.

    There are several black boxes in that electronics package, so its hard to tell which one you specifically are talking about.
    When you take the one in question out, let us know what markings are on it, and do some research on it. Maybe it was a replacement for
    one that failed... From the markings on it, some of us might be able to tell if it might have been originally there..

    Mike
     
  2. bski7908

    bski7908 Karting

    Oct 14, 2015
    65
    Charlotte NC
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    MBS
    Yeah when I see electrical tape and a spliced blade fuse, my hair stands on end. I know the Italians were famous for haphazard electrics but this has 'stereo shop teenager' written all over it. And may I say that I applaud Laforza and Maserati for staying away from printed circuit boards as long as possible.
     
  3. Mexico074

    Mexico074 Formula Junior

    Aug 14, 2008
    985
    Harriman, TN USA
    Full Name:
    Michael Demyanovich
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  4. bski7908

    bski7908 Karting

    Oct 14, 2015
    65
    Charlotte NC
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    MBS
    Looks great! At one point it looks like this car was outfitted with a phone and some other type of 1980s electronic device (hopefully it was something really neat like a Pioneer KP series) spliced into the factory harness in addition to the sunroof. Once I'm through all the tape I'll follow up.
     
  5. bski7908

    bski7908 Karting

    Oct 14, 2015
    65
    Charlotte NC
    Full Name:
    MBS
  6. bski7908

    bski7908 Karting

    Oct 14, 2015
    65
    Charlotte NC
    Full Name:
    MBS
    Believe it or not the other fenderwell looks even worse (I can reach through the bulkhead and grab the steering wheel). If anyone has good images of the sections around the cowling please get in touch. There is so much missing I can't even use the service manual to figure out how it should look.

    This car is perilously close to becoming a collection of parts on ebay.
     
  7. Mexico074

    Mexico074 Formula Junior

    Aug 14, 2008
    985
    Harriman, TN USA
    Full Name:
    Michael Demyanovich
    Hello bski7908...

    Can you be a bit more specific on what pictures you are looking for? I might be able to help..
    On the other hand, I am in the Knoxville, TN area, if you are interested in perhaps coming to
    take a look at another QPIII..

    Mike
     
  8. bski7908

    bski7908 Karting

    Oct 14, 2015
    65
    Charlotte NC
    Full Name:
    MBS
    Thanks Mexico074, I haven't given up on this one yet! The red X marks indicate what appears to be missing from my car but in some places the diagram doesn't seem to make sense? The undercoating did a great job of hiding rust but a poor job preventing it.

    If your car has good metal in these areas I would certainly make the trip to photograph it.

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  9. amc

    amc Karting

    Apr 9, 2009
    227
    old school
    This is that model were all interior looked the same?
     
  10. Mexico074

    Mexico074 Formula Junior

    Aug 14, 2008
    985
    Harriman, TN USA
    Full Name:
    Michael Demyanovich
    hello bski7908 …

    See if these help at all... You can just make out the tire in the pictures... This is somewhat difficult to photograph,
    but I did not take the wheel/tire off.. The first is of the passenger side looking toward the back of the front wheel well.
    The next two are of the driver side looking toward the back of the front wheel well...Let me know if you need me to
    get pictures with the wheels/tires off...

    Mike
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  11. staatsof

    staatsof Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Mar 13, 2005
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    Fuggetaboutitland
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    Bob
    Holy crap! :eek:
     
  12. bski7908

    bski7908 Karting

    Oct 14, 2015
    65
    Charlotte NC
    Full Name:
    MBS
    Staatsof, that about sums it up perfectly- 'holy crap'. There doesn't appear to be much good metal around the cowling and the rust in the c pillars is actually worse. I've located a good rust-free shell in California so hopefully I can make one car out of two.
     
  13. staatsof

    staatsof Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Mar 13, 2005
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    It wasn't all that long ago that these cars couldn't be given away. One such as that was a parts car at best and their motors utilized in project cars or worse.
    There were a few folks that collected these beasts for pennies on the dollars and then parted them out. Mitchel Barnes (rip) was one, a fellow named JOEDRO on eBay was another. Your's looks like one of those leftovers. It's hard to imagine how anyone ever drove such a beautiful car such as this into such deplorable condition, must have happened in the salt & snow?

    Great idea picking up a clean rust free parts car and making one good one out of the two. What an enormous task, QPIIIs have always been that. Bravo! But I'm glad it's not me ... Michael's efforts on so many Maseratis also astound me.

    You guys are NUTS! :p
     
  14. bski7908

    bski7908 Karting

    Oct 14, 2015
    65
    Charlotte NC
    Full Name:
    MBS
    I still have the original owners' binder in which the couple kept receipts for everything (service, wiper blades, inspections, etc). There are even hand-written and dated post-it notes: "$30 - fuel", "$25 - detailing", "$8 - wax". I want to save them all but I just didn't get to this one in time. It still got me from CT to VA without stopping though (except fuel). It was a beautiful drive too- fall foliage, sunny and freezing cold.
     
  15. CharlieA

    CharlieA Karting

    Nov 4, 2013
    105
    Hey guys!
    Got a question. Removing my QP3 engine one of these days.
    You usually take the engine out with gearbox or do you split them and take out the engine only?
    I'm guessing splitting the gearbox from engine and loosen flexplate should be straight forward??

    Hoping for some tips here guys!
     
  16. CharlieA

    CharlieA Karting

    Nov 4, 2013
    105
    Cleaning carbs tonight! Three stage prosess!
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  17. bski7908

    bski7908 Karting

    Oct 14, 2015
    65
    Charlotte NC
    Full Name:
    MBS
    CharlieA, I am planning to yank the engine/ trans from mine soon. Because the trans is so long I think it will be easier to pull the engine alone. It seems like removing the ancillaries, oil pan, filter, manifolds etc will help make the engine as 'small' as possible.
     
  18. CharlieA

    CharlieA Karting

    Nov 4, 2013
    105
    Glad we are several in this boat :)
    I've heard some rumours that splitting the trans and engine in situ is not easy.
    Can anyone confirm this? From what I can see there are two inspection holes in the trans, is it possible to bolt and unbolt the flexplate through these?
    Would love to get some first hand knowledge on this.

    I've got some roof issues myself because of the long engine & tranny package.
     
  19. bski7908

    bski7908 Karting

    Oct 14, 2015
    65
    Charlotte NC
    Full Name:
    MBS
    My contingency if the engine/ transmission don't want to come apart is to lower the front of the car as much as possible to improve the angle (blocks under the rear tires, donut spares on the front). We'll see I guess. Best laid plans of mice & men....

    First I have to find a couple of junk spares. Can someone confirm these are 5x114 hubs?
     
  20. GLB

    GLB Formula Junior

    Oct 27, 2010
    256
    Yes, 5 x 114.3, standard Ford pattern, but also others. The offset of the originals is 40mm. At one time I was trying to see what larger diameter tires I could fit, so I tried various wheels I had around - and no, I didn't put Mustang wheels on my car!
    I have never pulled the engine in mine, but I notice that the manual describes taking the engine and transmission out together. Figure 57 (printed upside down in the manual, natch) shows a pretty steep angle. The manual says 225kg for both, but that's wrong. I have pulled the very similar engine from my Bora and it weighs about 233kg (514lbs) by itself. It could be worse - my son pulled the engine and transmission from an early XJ6 recently -- 883 lbs!
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