Question about Ferrari Battery Tender

It should. My 430 tender was same as my 458. Can't imagine scud or speciale would be different.

More in tenders here if looking for more in-depth info. i.e. Why OEM charger not the best

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/technical-q-sponsored-algar-ferrari/347563-yabtp-making-battery-conditioner-connected-light.html

 

My 458 came with its own specific charger. The connectors are not the same for the Ferrari's before the 458. If yours fit some one reworket it to fit.

If your charger light comes on you should know 7-10 days if it works if you do not drive the car.

12 volt batteries are 12 volt so it can be made to work.

Lee

 

My 430 and 458 both came with their own tenders and the connectors were 100% identical. The output was slightly different on the two units but otherwise identical. Both were rebadged Ctek chargers where Ferrari just puts their logo on it. One was .8 amps and the other 1.2 amps

I don't run through the door but instead run wire through the passenger window which I leave open an inch. See the link in my post above for LOTS more info on tenders and photos of my setup

 

I think if your battery is in good shape the .8 should be sufficient to charge it however neither Ferrari OEM is designed for AGM batteries which have some specific quirks. You could get by for awhile with it but over a whole winter I would recommend going the other route.

For about $100 on amazon you can get a top of the line Ctek (same brand Ferrari uses) or even go with a cheaper $50 model on there that handles AGM specifically. Either of those would give you a higher charge rate. If outside the USA and not using 120V they have specific models for the power requirements in Europe.

The only trick is that you either have to hook up the Ctek connector direct to the battery terminals OR make a cable (Warren made mine as referenced in the other thread). On my 430 I hooked direct to the battery but since Warren was making cables for those who wanted them here I took him up on that so I could use the mounted receptacle.

Here is a short info piece on AGM batteries and how they differ from Lead Acid and why you should really use an AGM designed tender. For well under $200 you can have a cable and the top of the line Ctek 7002 made for Lead Acid and AGM.

Absorbent Glass Mat (AGM) Battery Information - Battery University

The absorption voltage range and float voltage range differs from Lead Acid a bit.

 

I'm not sure if you have the lights set to OFF if keeping it open will drain the juice but better to either crack the window open an inch or if your wires are short just open the window completely and run through there.

If you are worried about the wires scratching the car (plastic shouldn't though) you could lay a towel over the door sill after you lower the window and before you place your charging wires on it. Would that work instead of leaving that door open?

 

Your 458 will come with it's own battery tender. Just run it through the open passenger side door and close it. No need to open the window as it's designed to be closed in the door. Used it all the time for my 12 Italia. No issues.

 

Your 430 must have been later in built cycle so as they were transitioning to the 458 system you got that unit.

Mine had different connectors and was plugged in from the hood. y 458 goes in the passenger side.

The other thing that is interesting is the dealer told me the 458 must be plugged in all the time when not used. The car uses flash cards instead of a chip. IF the car is left idle the battery will go dead in about 7 days. This was not a problem with my 360 or the 430 I owned prior to the 458.

The advantage is the car software can be updated at the dealer. I have not updated anything so far

best

Lee

 

Lee,

That is possible. Not sure what year your 430 was but mine was an '07 and it was the same as my '15 458 spider. Both plugged in under the passenger footwell and had that same U shaped connector with 4 pinouts.

Good to know on that 7 day charge for the 458. My 430 would last weeks without being on the tender. I'll be sure to use the tender more frequently on the 458 when I'm not driving it! thanks

 

My 430 was purchased new 11/2006. At least that is what the bottle of Booze says. My dealer gives a commemorative bottle of wine with a new Ferrari.

As you point out that most likely the answer. I agree on the earlier Ferrari's, my 360 and 430 did not have a charger requirement.


Enjoy tour car

Best

Lee

 

I had an '05 430 which also had the connector plugged in the hood also.

 

This may help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkDPAgBL7ec

 

The charger that came with my Italia was a 110V unit, which naturally ceased to finction when I plugged it into the local 220V mains. I promptly bought a CTEK MXS 5.0 and adaptor from a kind FChatter who fabricated these as a hobby. This has worked well.

The dealer apologized for the 110V/220V error and ordered a replacement charger, which arrived today. This seems a CTEK MXS 5.0 as well, without the cold and conditioning settings, but of course with the Ferrari logos. It did come with an adapter, shown here. I am sure the Ferrari charger costs ten times the CTEK charger.

Andy
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No, run the cord along the front portion of the passenger side door and just close it on the charger. Did that for 2 years with my 12 Italia. It's meant to have the door close on it. It does come with it's own battery tender and I'd use the one that came with your car.

 

Did you buy the adapter from Warren? I didn't know he was an fchatter. I stumbled into his blog, and I'm going to buy an adapter from him. He told me they work well, but it's good to hear that from a customer

BTW, I went to plug my Ferrari/CTEK battery charger that came with my Speciale into the socket under the dashboard, and springs and parts popped out. LOL.

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is Warren still making these adapters? If so how do I can get in touch with him and what does he charge?

thanks,

Jeet

 

As noted in the accompanying post, I too have had no problem with charger cord used in this fashion. The key is to position the cord, at the front most part of door. Close the door and then gently slide the cord into the space between door and front fender. This allows cord to "float" freely. If you run it randomly under the door, then yes it will pinch the cord. To remove the cord, I slide it back away from this area so when I open door it is not trapped by fender/door.
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just received adapters for Speciale from Warren...fits very well.

 

H

Hello there, got my adapter too, and when I plug it in, nothing works.
Did you spot any issues after the spring popped out? Trying to do detective work before I take down everything

Thanks !