Question about the 360 CS

The CS was derived from the 360 Challenge and 360 GT. With shifts as fast as 150 milliseconds in race mode, it's all about quickness.

 

imo, they were just being ferrari. same reason there's no manual enzos? who knows.

i heard that ferrari offered six-speed CSs to a few of its key customers. i don't know that anyone bit.

doody.

 

b.c the CS is supposed to be a race car for the street (sorry for the cliche), and all race cars today have an F1 shifter. .150 miliseconds is a really quick shift and therefore you can acclerate faster and gain more speed and downshift much easier than with a manual. I do however agree with u, my first Ferrari is going to be a stick.

 

Does anybody have pictures of a manual 360 Challange Stradale?

 

Doody; Look what ya started!

 

IMO the above is prob the best 'descriptive reason'.....the CS is a road version of the race version (challenge) of the road car (norm 360) confusing yes but taken frm Top Gear...lol

Anyway..hence u wont find a manual shifter in a [F1] RACE car....so i think ferrari were trying to give it that 'race' car feel ...that and they had improved/upgraded the F1 transmission from earlier models....

right ive confused the krap outta myself now too....but i hope that helps

 

the F1 system on the CS is just great . it can't be compared to any other 360's.

 

based on my very limited knowledge, which may be wrong, i do not believe that a manual CS has ever actually been built.

doody.

 

I think it's mainly because of marketing reasons: a Ferrari road car, that was derived from a race car has to have the F1. But why not offer a manual if someone wants it? And I'm sure if Ferrari had offered the CS with a manual transmission along with the F1-model, they would have sold some (not as many as with F1 though, but more than just a few) .
The open gate has been THE Ferrari trademark inside the car from the very beginning. So why let it die?
It would be the same if Ferrari said: "sorry guys, no rosso corsa anymore, you'll only get rosso scuderia from now on".
Just my 2c.

 

In addition to the "its a street version of a race car" thinking, also consider that:

A) it is limited edition, and
B) demand for it with F1 would FAR outstrip the limited numbers, and
C) its always more economical to eliminate customer options

So, Ferrari makes more money by only offering it as an F1.
The same reasoning works for the Enzo.
But does NOT work for the much larger production numbers of the 360.


Given all the above, now you can add a marketing reasoning:

Ferrari's F1 tranny is a differentiator for it.
Thus, the more popular the F1 is, the more popular Ferrari is.
By making the most special Ferraris only in F1, they are giving
a certain endorsement to the F1.
That helps boost the F1's perception... which is good for Ferrari long-term.

How's that reasoning?


And finally, as a Stradale-enthusiast, I'd hate to see a CS lessened by having an inferior tranny! I'm sure Ferrari SpA feels the same!

 

do everyone a favour and search, you'll find recent threads on this subject.

the F1 is perfect when you are pounding a CS.

i have a downhill short straight with an entry bump, leading to a hairpin somewhere nearby were i have compared terminal velocity at the brake point, stability and control under heavy downhill braking [and stability under heavy acceleration over the bump] of:

[2] 996 TT Tiptronics
[1] 996TT stick
[3] GT2's
[2] GT3's
[1] CS

the 2 non- stick boxes allow an Ok driver like me to keep the car more balanced, reach a higher terminal speed and brake more safely and calmly.

bTW the non turbo CS terminal velocity is equal to the fastest acheived in the turbo cars... mostly i believe from better handling. The CS by far handles the entry bump with least disturbance to the car's balance.

 

But you've got the 996TT stick and the CS rated at 1, and the 996TT Tip at 2. Editing error, or am I missing something?

Gary

 

sorry Gary,

i wasnt clear - those are not ratings, but the number of cars of each type i owned and "tested".

i hadnt thought of rating them, they all have their excellences, altho' in other threads i have commented at length on the differences.

but i will say as someone who rarely keeps a car more than 4 or 5 months, i dont see anything i'd rather drive than a CS, except maybe the 430CS, if it happens.

 

thanks hari, i am confused enough on monday mornings, but now this!!!!

 

this thread is going back to the old f1 vs 6speed arguement...its like the abortion issue or religion, you will never change someones mind about this...never discuss religion, politics or ferrari transmissions in mixed company....the question is , if someone makes a fully automatic transmission that is faster than f1 type and 6speeds and is totally seemless, would it still be as much fun just stepping on the gas and brake and steering? to me it wouldnt, ..... i like maximum driver envolement in my sports cars so i am a 6speed guy..for my everyday commuter car, give me a mindless auto..

 

haha...no probs mate!!

 

My father and I argue often about this point while watching F1.My father says they should go back to manual gearboxes and I agree that it would add an extra challenge.We all know however that F1 is the pinnacle of motor racing and it is always pushing the boundries of technology,everything is measured in tenths of a second.A F1 car changes gears in 0.030 secs and there is no doubt this makes a dramatic improvement on lap times.Ferrari has always designed their road cars on a race track and if a F1 gearbox is going to save half a second a lap then thats what they will use.It is therefore fitting that their most extreme versions come standard with F1 ie 360CS and Enzo.Having said all that I pray Ferrari doesn't get rid of that beautiful chrome gated shifter because one day when I fullfill my dream I would like to hear that click clack too.

Marco

 

have you ever driven a 360 CS F1 in anger? then you don't know what you're missing.