Question for Lewis fans...

No. I can't pin point dangerous, maybe I have to look at the replay. All drivers say all types of things during the race. Perez had nothing to loose. Hamilton had everything to loose. Hamiltons job was to get by Perez safely. Not battle or put on a show. He has nothing to prove at this stage.

 

I thought Perez did his job to muck up Lewis race and allow Max to catch up. There have been other drivers who are criticizing what Sergio did though, and even Perez has offered a sort of apology for the challenge (basically saying ‘I hope Lewis understands I was trying to help my team but I didn’t want to interfere with his championship challenge’). His challenge was similar to Alonso or Schumacher type of blocking (for a moment…they can sustain).

 

Hungary2021-->Alonso defends Lewis for 10 straight laps so Ocon could win.

Lewis during the 10 lap struggle. " This is dangerous, man."

 

Of course it is dangerous - the last thing you want is to hit another driver shoveling him into the barriers with 50 G

 

It's heat of the moment stuff said on a team radio. We need to stop nit picking those instant comms.

Sergio drove awesome in that block nothing unsafe that I saw.

 

I thought Sergio did a good job of racing wheel to wheel rather cleanly.

 

I thought Perez's driving was incredible.

 

Lewis backs up his own teammate, Rosberg in 2016, despite explicit instructions to speed up. It's not okay when it happens to him.

Seriously, who didn't see that as one of the highlights of the race?

 

No

 

He was driving slowly, which in a way could be dangerous, I do not think so though.

Question for you:

As a neutral F1 fan: Do you think Masi bent the rules to benefit close "racing"?

 

Phil - It seems to me that the timing of Latifi's crash was terrible for Masi...a few laps earlier or later and he wouldn't have been on the hot seat. It didn't work out that way though. It seems pretty clear to me, after reading the rules, that the race director is endowed with discretion when it comes to the safety car, for the simple reason that these incidents are fluid and no fixed rule works in every circumstance. I really feel sorry for Masi with the mess of Abu Dhabi. He had to choose between an unsatisfactory finish under yellow, or an unsatisfactory use of his discretion to cobble together a racing finish, all in real time and with millions of people looking on. What a terrible thing.

I think he exercised the discretion given him by the rules. Whether he exercised that discretion improperly (what we call an "abuse of discretion" in my profession) is obviously the subject of great controversy right now. I don't have that answer and I'm not sure anyone does.

 

Yes,
In the same way they decided nothing with the two Lewis/mazepin episodes.
Mercedes simply couldn’t accept to lose one day, as Lewis either.

 

Motor racing is dangerous Lewis, relatively speaking. It even says so on the tickets.

 

Not knowing how long it would take to clear the track, and so near the end of a race, I believe Masi could have called for a red flag, and the end of the race.

That's the usual procedure in that case, as I have seen in different series.

The leader had done more than 75% of the distance, so all the point could have been given.

I suppose I will be called bias for that opinion, but that's the way I see it.

 

I though a red flag at that point of the race, is equivalent to a checker flag on the previous lap. Therefore, Lewis would have been WDC.

 

I don't know if I qualify as a "Lewis fan" per se, but I think he deserved to win that final race. But I don't think there was anything dangerous or unsporting in Perez's driving. He did wonderfully well to block Lewis for his team's sake, and that was well within the rules.

Bottas could learn a thing or two (or ten!) from Checo. Bottas qualifies reasonably well, but he drives like a scared grandma during racing conditions.

The only problem I had with that race was with Masi's officiating. I think you'll hear the same thing said by most "Lewis fans".

And Lewis's words were just understandable frustration. Maybe a bit of gamesmanship - but that's part of the game. In my view, Checo was a hero for RBR.

 

Perez defended brilliantly. No question. That was excellent driving and great entertainment. Lewis messed up on the first lap of the defence by overtaking Perez a split second before the second drs line. This gave Perez drs and he used it brilliantly to re-take his lead before the slow sector 3. That mistake cost Lewis a ton of time before he could get the job done the following lap.

 

That's just a typical LH whine - He said the same thing a few races prior (don't recall the specifics - apologies - but same statement) - Basically the way I see it is any time someone doesn't move over and let LH by because they feel so graced by his omnipotent presence and actually engage in a RACE with him then he whines about "Dangerous Driving" - IMHO nothing Sergio did was dangerous - he wasn't weaving on the straights extensively - didn't abruptly let off the throttle/brake-check LH - he was simply defending his position and long as he could and made it as difficult as possible - yet within safe parameters - for LH to overtake him - last time I checked if you are the leading car and not a lap down it is YOUR JOB to defend the position and actually RACE the trailing car - this is the whole purpose of DRS is to give the trailing car an advantage and make for exciting racing - if in the process you hold up the trailing car that just so happens to be the rival of your team mate then so be it - I thought is was masterful driving and teamwork on the part of Sergio - Oh and BTW I did not hear any whining when they pulled Sergio in - I can only imagine if that happened to LH - his next multi-million $ endorsement would be Kleenex

 

Ah - someone has been watching the (AMAZING) show "Ferrari 312B: Where the Revolution Begins" - great quote from Sir Jackie Stewart - Nicely played

 

Yes - Bent but not break - And quite glad he did - How pathetic would it have been to end an amazing season culminating in an amazing race down to the wire behind a flippin safety car - would have been just another nail in the coffin of F1 to the uneducated and/or new/potential F1 fan - IMHO - Cheers

 

Thing is he wasn’t really racing. Max managed to catch up 6 seconds in HALF a lap initially (=12s a lap slower lol) so Checo must have been doing some unusual stuff. Hard to see on TV but driving so differently and unpredictably was probably what was meant by Lewis’s message. Was good driving though don’t get me wrong!


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Yeah I see your point and the math does not lie - I think I would have been ok if LH had said something along the lines of "Checo is purposely holding me up!!!" - or perhaps something more "passionate" but to pull the "That's Dangerous Driving" card literally within just a few races seemed repetitive and a bit whiny is all. definitely added to what at least I thought was a helluva race - despite all the controversy - Cheers

 

He said the same in Hungary, not sure if that was the race you're referring to (Lewis whines so much about ''dangerous'' stuff it's hard to keep track). This time it was Lewis having to pass Alonso for position...he didn't move over and roll out the red carpet so he went on to whinge every moment saying it was dangerous. Lol!

 

Bottas has never been an aggressive driver.

He can be fast in qualifs, but quickly lose places at the start because he doesn't drive aggressively enough.

You cannot instil aggression in someone who doesn't possess it naturally.