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Quite a crosswind!

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  1. Gatorrari

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    Hadn't seen this one before:

     
  2. Fave

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    Reminds me of a night landing in Saudi Arabia, for a good few seconds I think I had a better view of the runway than the boys up front.
     
  3. technom3

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    That was pretty damn good
     
  4. tazandjan

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    Landing in a crab like that makes you appreciate how tough these aircraft, and their landing gear, really are. For you heavy drivers out there, do you have to keep in crosswind corrections on roll-out like you do on light aircraft?
     
  5. Bob Parks

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    I noticed that the rudder was very much alive on rollout. The ability to land on the upwind wheel with the upwind wing down in a taildragger , it's pretty easy to maintain more directional control at touchdown and rollout. Of course , the conditions to which I refer are nowhere near what was on the video.
     
  6. Tcar

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    Is the rudder connected to the nosewheel when it's on the ground?
     
  7. Bob Parks

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    I'm not a pilot of a Big Tin Bird but from what I remember there is no mechanical connection with the nose wheel and the rudder. The nose wheel has a steering tiller when on the ground at low speed.
     
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    Nose wheel steering is not normally engaged until the airspeed is quite a bit lower than touchdown speed. On the aircraft I flew, it was around 60 knots. Until then, the rudder was used to maintain directional control. Same for take-off, NWS was disengaged at around 60 knots. Not sure about the heavies since my only time in those is as pax and many heavies, such as Boeing, do not use the rudder pedals for NWS.
     
  9. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Looks like Bristol R27 so thats a direct crosswind 180 26G40,sporty!
     
  10. Bob Parks

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    The Bristol runway layout was designed by the same guy that set up the airports with high tension wires and 100 foot tall transmission towers at end of each runway.
     
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  11. JLF

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    Yes
     
  12. JLF

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    The rudder (pedals) are connected to the nose wheel, yes. Will steer the nose wheel typically around 7 degrees.
     
  13. tazandjan

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    Jerry- Not all aircraft have the rudder pedals connected to the NWS.
     
  14. Bob Parks

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    From what I can recall, the vertical stabilizer and rudder is designed to maintain yaw control in case an engine fails after Vr. So, it is very powerful and nose wheel steering comes in at much lower speeds when the rudder is no longer affective. I mentioned tiller in a previous post. I should have said wheel, with brakes some times. Look at the nose gear assembly on the Big Tin Birds and you can see the two hydraulic steering actuators usually on the forward position of the assembly.
     
  15. JLF

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    That’s correct, the ATR-72s I used to fly had no connection. I don’t know of any big jets that don’t have pedal steering, there may be some but it’s probably not common.
     
  16. tazandjan

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    Jerry- Boeing uses a small steering wheel/lever on the side of the cockpit in most of their aircraft.
     
  17. JLF

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    Thank you the three Boeings that I have flown did indeed all have that feature.
     
  18. Bob Parks

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    Like I said. This brings back memories of the "steering rig" that Boeing designed to duplicate the height and geometry of the 747 before it was put into service so that future pilots could get the feel of being 30 feet off the surface of the taxiway and the nose gear 15 ft. aft of them. It was a tubular truss mounted on a truck with the " cockpit " at the top of the truss.
     
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    The crosswinds are blowing today.
     

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