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  1. andymont

    andymont Formula Junior

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    #1 andymont, Dec 14, 2015
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    Does somebody knows why, such two different cars (Maserati and Bizzarrini) were transported together on this OM light truck registered MO36453, at Le Mans ?

    I ignore the answer...

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  2. italiancars

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    Well the photo appears to be taken in 1964 during practice sessions.
     
  3. andymont

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    Yes because the tipo 151 is still unpainted.

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  4. Michele

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    The Maserati was not an official factory entry but a private car. So I guess the owner(s) of the Bizzarini and the Maserati decided to have both cars transported from Italy to Le Mans in combination to save money??
     
  5. andymont

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    The Bizzarrini Iso A3C was entered by Auguste Veuillet and the Maserati by Maserati France.
    In the mean time the truck came from Modena. So..?

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  6. Nembo1777

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    Yes but in April 1964, the date of this photo taken in the Le Mans paddock, the Tipo 151 was inaugurating this body configuration, ready at the last minute as usual (I did extensive 151 research in the 1990's for a comprehensive article...in fact exactly 20 years ago time flies) and arrived straight from the factory in Modena whilst the Bizza even though French owned was likely -just assuming- also brand new hence arriving from Livorno which is not much of a detour from Modena before heading north (in summer I often stop for a swim at the beach in Levanto nearby as a stopover between Modena and Burgundy when returning to France). There is nothing extraordinary about two privateer entries of different makes being transported together, happens all the time.

    That rear window configuration was allowed on track for these April test days but the ACO told them to enlarge it for the race 2 months later which they did having no choice.

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  7. lgs

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    #7 lgs, Dec 14, 2015
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    Cost savings: Baricchi Traslochi from Modena (dal 1929) brought the two 'private' entries on one transporter to Le Mans, after the cars were prepared in Modena and Livorno for the track ...
     
  8. andymont

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    I agree on a cost savings fact.
    Even my first tought was about Baricchi, because the truck seems the same of the famous photo on the road to LM '62 with the two Ferrari cars of the Serenissima on it .

    A possible answer is that the A3C on the truck is an Iso Grifo (not yet a Bizzarrini) and that car probably came directly from the Drogo workshop in Modena, the same workshop that made the Maserati 151/3.

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  9. lgs

    lgs Formula Junior

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    Absolutly, Baricchi Traslochi provided with OM Leoncinos - not only for the Scuderia Serenissima - race car transports (traslochi baricchi traslochi fai da te a modena) all over Europe ... and preparation at Drogo of the A3C and the 151/3 at the same time for the Le Mans Preliminaries sounds plausible indeed.
     
  10. andymont

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    Yes thanks, I know very well who was Baricchi and what they did at those times .

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  11. SilverThunder

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    Can anyone pinpoint the date, or month when that picture was taken?
     
  12. Nembo1777

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    See post #2: April 1964.
     
  13. SilverThunder

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    Thank you much for that. Would anyone know
    Marc, are you referring to the Tipo 151 needing a rear glass enlargement or the A3/C? If it's the A3/C, can you guide me to the rules that dictated this? Thanks!
     
  14. Nembo1777

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    The 151.

    Finding the written rules today would be difficult but it is certain that the scrutineers at the pesage "weigh in" which is the name for pre race inspection at LM demanded a larger rear opening for driver visibility. The team was notified in April not to show up again with the letterbox rear window in June.
     
  15. SilverThunder

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    Got it. I am restoring an early A3/C, actually the first one Piero Drogo changed the flar rear screen to the (Ferrari Superamerica) bent rear screen. I was hoping maybe a connection to LM rules made this happen - other than Giotto's own desire to do so.
     

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