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QV Fi 87 HLA12144 Full Restoration

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  1. DaniT

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  2. joe sackey

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    Important images, this is the first time Ive seen the overall shape of the composite material cockpit panelling, very to cool to see it moulded as one piece!

    Impressive work as always, and thanks for sharing Dani.
     
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    The fact that the cockpit panelling is moulded as one piece is making its removal and installation a real challenge. I do not know why the factory did not split it into two halves.
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  4. Ellagirl

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    Question, cons the Huge improvement in the resin polyester/ vinylester tech over the last 20-30 years, would it be considered non original to pop a mold of this old fiberglass part nd manufacture a new unit in modern resins/multi axial materials, we do use modern primers an fillers/ paints in a repaint situation, just throwing this out there, it would improve the rigidity and poss sound/ insulation,all inn all a positive thing, but if considered non original,i do understand the reason why the old part should just be fixed and reinnstalled, Joe would be in a good position to answer this beeing he is involved with everything from resto to final sales more than most, thanks, My front euro bumper came from original Lambo stock/ part numbr, poss th orst quality i have ever seen in a fiberglass part, had my tool guy spend a lot of time fixing airvoids and straiten it out, if this part is of equal quality an improvent would benefit the car big time
     
  5. GraemeS

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    Hi Daniel , Yes it does seem strange they did not split it down the centre of the console, it would have made your life a lot easier. They probably installed it before they fitted the roof rails.
    I do have a couple of questions, that floor would appear to be from a LHD car based on the handbrake position etc , do you have any floors from the other cars that are RHD, I am curious whether the console is offset left or right depending which side the driver sits, did they give the driver more room so he could operate the clutch or make it equal, a front or rear on photo would be great if you had a moment. Also did you receive the email I sent a few days ago, as it appears unread.

    Best Regards
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  6. joe sackey

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    Of course you make a good point, but one has to decide how far away from remaining faithful to the restoration of original components one wants to go. I commented about this same issue in the other thread.
     
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    #282 DaniT, Sep 4, 2016
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    The mechanical design and the materials and technologies used to build those cars are around 40 years old. Of course it would be at this stage of restoration quite easy to implement a lot of improvements in all aspects of the car.

    The question is where we draw the line.

    Concerning the fiberglass manufacturing I think it was also with the old materials and technologies possible to produce high quality parts. I bought a lot of NOS (new old stock) fiberglass parts. They are all of good quality workmanship. I would not change those parts for reproductions from multi axial materials. If there is a need to remanufacture a fiberglass part we are using the same materials and production technologies. To build a mold we us the most modern technology.
     
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    #283 DaniT, Sep 4, 2016
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    Hi Greame, I am sorry but I have only LHD parts and I also do not have access to a RHD car.
    I was in the meantime answering your email.
     
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    This is something I am struggling with myself with my 6.0 rebuild. On one hand, it would be nice to have all OE stuff to put back on but the truth is= I sure couldn't afford it. I think stuff made from fiberglass/composit, or even stuff without numbers on it= if done well, will be fine to source replacement parts for. Hell, the amount of steel that I have put back on my car kind of voids its originality at this point..
     
  12. Edward 96GTS

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    as with all makes of cars, reproduction pieces tend to look and function poorly when compared to nos pieces. it is amazing that a 40 yr old part is of higher quality considering how far manufacturing has come.
     
  13. Ellagirl

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    Agreed reg the new cars in vacumed bagged carbon lay up and the likes. When it comes to 40 year old hand made Italian cars. Not so much,(think early 80s Bayliner/ Scarab boats. Not good) fender flares and bumper shells. Heck , who cares. They fit. Painted look good, and readily available. I did the same thing. Just thought some up to date engineering / quality would feel good in the more important floor pans. Then again i fully understand and respect the use if the originals. Beeing the Countach has a lot of steel surounding the fiberglass
    Fantastic restoration. Cant wait to se it done. Also cool you are putting all the time and money in to a fuelie qv. (Love that name. Thanks Joe)
     
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    What material is used to bond/adhere the fiberglass belly pan/interior shell to the steel cage/ frame? Thanks
     
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    The fiberglass belly/cockpit panelling is riveted to the chassis tubes. The gaps are sealed by black silicon sealer.
     
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    It's a Countach.
     
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    Thanks for the info
     
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    Yup. Like em all :)
     
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    That must be an incredible sight in person. Amazing work.
     
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    Thank you. In fact the Countach body looks fantastic from all angles and has more the charisma of a sculpture than of a car.
     
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  24. joe sackey

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    Agreed

    Great work, riveted-on composite panels look familiar!
     
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