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  1. Tspringer

    Tspringer F1 Veteran

    Apr 11, 2002
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    Im getting a racecar! See thread under other cars and such.

    This beast is going to require race fuel. So, I will be purchasing at least 106 octane gas. At Road Atlanta, they charge $7.50 a gallon for 110 octane Sunoco. That is clearly a monopoly ripoff scenario!

    So.... anyone know of any other means of purchasing race gas in bulk? Any other solutions?


    Terry
     
  2. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Terry.

    Give me a day. As I recall, I knew a guy who bought it in 55 gallon drums and pumped it with a hand crank style pump. He kept the stuff on his loading dock and got it delivered this way from a racing fuel guy.

    I'll dig around and try to find that info.

    Dave
     
  3. Seth

    Seth Formula 3

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    dont most airports sell high octane gas? my friends dad gets it for all his old cars...
     
  4. WJHMH

    WJHMH Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but don't most tracks limit how much gas you can store in your garage or traveling with?
     
  5. PWehmer

    PWehmer Formula 3

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    AV gas is different then auto gas. Aviation fuel will work especially well as a blending agent for pump gas but will tend to lean the air/fuel ratio due to its lighter specific gravity of around .69 vs. pump fuel .075. Specific gravity of fuel also determines how high (or low) a carburetor float sits in the fuel. Also, aviation fuel octane is not rated the same as pump gasoline.

    You can save buy calling around hot rod shops, cycle shops, etc. and buying fuel away from the track.

    You may not need 110 octane. Maybe ask the former owner what they ran.
     
  6. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    Check out VP racing fuels. Looks like you can purchase in 54 gallon drums. Not sure if that's the best way to go though.

    http://www.vpracingfuels.com
     
  7. Poweredbyme91

    Poweredbyme91 Formula Junior

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    Just curious and I know I should post this question in the "Ask an elementary question" thread but I feel its more appropriate here.

    What would happen if you put some race fuel in, say a stock Honda Civic, are some ordinary everyday car? Is really high octane necessarily good? Will I feel a difference if I put it in my Acura Legend then from some 89 rated octane?

    I saw this stuff at Autozone the other day called "High Octane" fuel additive. Thats why I ask the question.

    Sorry if its a stupid question. Thanks!
     
  8. nwocorp

    nwocorp Formula Junior

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    sorta your car wouldnt be tuned for it which is a big problem compared to 89 you would but going higher can also bring in other troubles. If tuned you would definetly see a difference
     
  9. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    My friend accidentaly put 110 octane in his lawn mower and the engine gave up.
     
  10. rob lay

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    Most tracks only allow 5 gallon containers.
     
  11. FarmerDave

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    some thoughts on octane ratings from another forum

    The reality of Octane Booster performance
     
  12. Jagbuff

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    It would not be a "big" problem - just a waste of money and some loss of performance. If I remember my Thermo classes (long long time ago) flame propagation speed is critical in burning the charge - higher octane gas has a slower speed for equivalent compression so you probably get a less complete burn hence reduced performance... CR, Air ratio, head design being the same. If you do significant mods, then higher octane can become necessary. Remember also that some race fuel have lead additives- which in addition to helping boost octane numbers also act a "lubricant" for the valve seats... check with the prior onwer to make sure that he is running harden seats. Also, if you use race fuel on a car with an Lambda sensor, be prepared to replace every 25-50 hours...
     
  13. nwocorp

    nwocorp Formula Junior

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    i meant the fact that it wasnt tuned for it was a big problem, not that the engine would blow up. My mistake should have been clearer
     
  14. stevehuck

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    I am from the detroit burbs. I can think of 4 gas stations, off the cuff, less than 10 miles from my house that sell 110 octane. Step up and pump all you want. $3.79 a gallon.

    Also check around your area for speed shops like Ramchargers. You may be able to buy 5 Gal cans of VP or Sunoco there.

    Try a few of these.
    http://www.torcoracefuels.com/distributors/index.php
    http://www.vpracingfuels.com/index2.html?mgiToken=0C15B7C84AAFD73569
    http://www.racegas.com/distributormap/default.asp



    1. You would be driving around with an empty wallet and some sweet smelling exhaust.

    2. Really high octane is good if you have really high compression, really high boost from a turbo or supercharger, or your spraying a really big shot of nitrous.

    3. I doubt you would see any differance.
     

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