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Racing an E55 AMG in the mile

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  1. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    I've got it here temporarily......

    http://www.prahranair.com.au/f40drag.mpg

    I'll have to remove it in about an hour though.
     
  2. DropGems

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    That was gnarly! That vid looked so 80's too, haha. 128 mph! I guess a ten year old f-40 will still blow the doors off a Murci. Thanks for posting.
     
  3. stephens

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  4. Aircon

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    Mind?? I'm grateful. Thanks. The unedited clip is from a video tape that's over 4 hours long...not all of the F40. I did a number of runs...3 that are taped. I remember a guy told me "hold it at 3k and dump the clutch" ..i stalled it 3 times!!! He was thinking BIG V8...not little one! I was dumb to listen.

    Wheel spin was the killer, though. They're definitely not a drap car. If it had the 4 wheel drive of some modern cars it's standing start times would be amazing.
     
  5. robiferretti

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  7. 96impalaSS

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    Thats to bad man. I had the same thing happen to my Impala SS before. Ended up costing me alot of money because I had to get a whole new front and rear axle. (not to mention new rims.)
     
  8. Prugna 328

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    One thing I saw here is false. It stated the car with the quicker ET wins. No. It's who get there first not the quicker ET. Also if I remember my drag rac. correctly 66 feet before the 1/4 mile mark a second set of timing lights start, then 66 feet after the 1/4 mile mark another set of lights trips and figures out your trap speed. So if i'm remembering correctly if a driver keeps his foot into it after the 1/4 mile mark the car will register a faster speed. So basicly a 132 foot section of track that figures out an avg. So you could see like a top fuel dragster run a 4.50 and loose to a 4.52 and if the driver in the 4.52 stayed "into it for a fraction longer he would prob. have a faster speed even though his ET was slower.
     
  9. SRT Mike

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    No, it doesn't work like that. It averages your speed over about the last 60 feet of track, but the finish line is the finish line.

    What you are probably thinking of, is that when the winner is the first person to reach the finish line, regardless of who got the green light first. in bracket racing, a faster car may get a green light AFTER a slower car, and the faster car chases him down and whoever gets to the line first, wins.

    In test-n-tune and non-bracket racing, the lights go green at the same time. but the timer doesn't start until you break the first timing beam. So, both lines go green - driver A cuts a perfect .500 light, and runs a 12.7 to win the race. Driver B is sleeping off the line and cuts a 1.00 light, and runs a 12.5 1/4 mile. Driver A actually crossed the line 0.3 seconds ahead of B, even though B ran a faster time (and possibly at a higher MPH too).

    There is no case where you can cross the line AFTER another car and still win, unless the other driver redlights (leaves the start line before he gets a green and gets the red DQ light)
     
  10. robiferretti

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    Not true, i braket raced once in my limited 1/4 mile experience. I gave the other car like a 3 second head start...then mowed him down and blew past him before the finish line, was soo happy i won my first braket race! then i get to the booth and find out i lost. I broke out and ran faster then what was on my window and therefore was the loser even though i didn't redlight and reached the line first
     
  11. SRT Mike

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    Yeah, I know... thats why I said that about non-bracket racing and test-n-tune. But you are right - you can lose if you break out. But breaking out is similar to redlighting... in other words, you are DQ'ed. Did I mention I HATE bracket racing?
     
  12. allanlambo

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    Aircon, im not trying to be dick to you. I was at the track in the early 90's and watched Car and Driver put an F40 through its paces. Their best mph was 12.2@122mph. Most mags put the car between 118-124mph. I have video of a modded one running in the 11's @124 mph from Best Motoring.

    Stephens, Lambos are not fast. Only Mercedes Benzes are.
     
  13. AnotherDunneDeal

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    It is called reaction time. In top fuel, funny car, pro stock or whatever, the reaction time is what really counts. The reaction time is how much time elapses between the time the light turns green and you front tire breaks the starting beam. If you move immediately and record say a .04 reaction time, you can defeat someone who reacts more slowly and records something like a .11 reaction time. In this illustration you have a 7/100's of a second advantage over the person who reacted more slowly. Even if he beats your et (the time it takes you to cross the finish line from the time your front tire broke the starting beam, not when the light turned green) by less than 7/100's of a second, you are going to win. He might be coming on at the top end but the start is where you caught him sleeping and he is having to play catch up.

    And yes, the mph lights are before and after the starting line and figure the average between the two. So, it is correct that if you stay in it after the finish line, your mph can be much higher than someone who shuts it off immediately at the finish line. I have seen a top fue car doing 325 mph lose to one who ran 312 mph due to starting line finesse and staying in it past the finish line.

    BTW, I have drag raced a lot, (8.9 / 168 mph, best) and I do know of which I speak. I did it for over 30 years and actually started drag racing when we still used flagmen to get us going. No, I no longer have my old car, just wish I did...........
     
  14. TimN88

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    Ferretti is right. You can cross the line last, but come closer to your dial in without going over, and win.
    most peope in this board know nothing about drag racing because they are simply ignorant and have the wrong impressions about it.
     
  15. ATBNM3

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    I don't know how the race is going to turn out... But the E55 is a very fast car.
     
  16. stephens

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    Allan, yours might be quicker if you learnt to drive as well as you spin ****.

    FYI I currently have BMW 330 convertible, MB E55 and Vito, Ferrari 550, Ducati 999S and a Gallardo I'm trying to get out of. I have no allegiance to any brand, just the facts. The total lack of mature debate on this board is astounding.

    Allan, when, if ever have you ever taken ANY of your cars near to it's performance limits?
    The difference between you and me is I have both car and motorcycle racing licences, which I use regularly, I spend 30-40 days a year on the race track,
    so unlike blowhards (or should that be try hards) like you, I actually know what I am talking about.
    When is the last time you circuit raced (not a track day) or drag raced your car? Where are your time slips? What's that, don't have anything?! Oh, you mean to say your opinions should have more weight than real results and facts.
    Next week is the first round of the Shell Australian Superbike Championship. While you're still tossing off on the keyboard about your imaginary Internet conquests with a Cobra, I'll be knee down racing having a ball, doing the real thing.

    GROW UP
     
  17. allanlambo

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    Stephens, first off, if i were you id take your car colletion..... sell them.... and buy some real cars.

    As for racing bikes, i could give a rats ass. As for drag racing i used to race almost every weekend. On Maui, there are no tracks, so i dont race. There is a drag racing track, and im going to start that up again shortly. Going to buy a 996TT to that in.

    I can see how all your racing experience will help you shift your autobox E55 to victory! Get a grip ******bag.
     
  18. stephens

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    Good response Allan, the voice of experience once more? If I want to advice on cars to ponce around Maui, I'll be sure to look you up.
     
  19. allanlambo

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    Im good for advice on prancing around in Scottsdale and South Florida also. Let me know when youve sold those clunkers and we'll talk. In the meantime, go practice racing your E55.
     
  20. Mojo

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    My god this thread goes on for ever, Whens the race?
     
  21. 96impalaSS

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    I did.....on my brand new Ferrari bicycle. You must be crazy if you think you can hang with it. Its got 2 pedal power b*%ches.
     
  22. ATBNM3

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    Did this race ever happen???
     
  23. formula1joe

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    I don't think there is a race at this point. More like a Corvette owner blowing smoke. I want to see a video if this race ever took place.
     
  24. Clax

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    Who was the guy who was yapping that the E55 could smoke a Murcielago? Well, I will have mine in about 2 weeks, I'd love to see the E55 take a shot at me. Bring it on, hot-rod-family-wagon boy.
     

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