Racing career of #2643GT Esperimentale

During one of the Ferrari on Rodeo Drive events Lou Chinnetti mentioned how he had used this car as his drive to school vehicle.

Pretty car; flawed aerodynamics.

Jeff

 

http://www.juicebrakes.com/2643GT.html

 

I think this is the same car that was at Amliea Island this Sunday
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And the snorkel: http://www.juicebrakes.com/2643GT.html

 

Copyright unknow for the first photo and Copyright Lionel Robert for the others
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Nice photos!!

I said this on another thread,but I have come to the conclusion that #2643GT
was a metalic blue in the factory photos from early 1961.It was re-painted this
medium blue/grey for some reason just before Lemans 1961.They did do some
small body modifications so maybe that is the reason they repainted it.I think
thats what tricked several of the model companies(Tecnomodel,ect) into painting
their Lemans 1961 models in metalic blue.

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs

 

Was this car red at the Ferrari 50th anniversary in Rome ?

 

Yes.
Ex Lucchini

Manfred/Mitorosso

 

Just have a look at these 2 pictures...
See that on the Le Mans 1961 car the stripe is Blue-white-red as the french colors and on the restored version, colors have been changed into red-white-blue !
Is it a mistake or made on purpose ???
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Gotta be a mistake ..but what a mistake !

 

The original version of the car had more curves. Quite a pretty restoration; however it's like the design was cleaned up as it is today.
On the restored car the windshield wipers are moved. The hood is cut more straight, the hood bulge is smaller and even the grill opening is more straight. There is also something around the headlights that looks a bit off. A GTO also featured some 'adjustments' from the original Italian effort; another pretty car now. For some curves don't seem to translate well when revisited...
CH

 

What a mistake in stead of the French flag the Dutch flag! Nice ;-)
Over restored car?

 

Inside rear view mirror is different from original as well .
From the images shown, distance between engine lid and front of restored car looks longer than the original:distance to the small round lid looks a bit greater as is the distance between the "12" to the front Ferrari badge.

 

I believe this guy restored the car http://www.juicebrakes.com/

 

Good point about the mirror. I wonder if it was originally the same as a production model mirror from that time period.
The shape of the rear wheel wells also appear modified; being opened up too much especially toward the rear. Though some claim the shape is original...
All of this means little for such a rare car. However all these changes alter the character of this Ferrari.
CH

 

Overall the car is pretty well done. Remember this is as raced at Lemans .The hood
color mix up is kind of strange. The wiper on top is removed for some reason.
It is located in the right place. The new photos I think were taken with a wide angle
lense. The old photos are 50mm. Rear wheel arch looks close, maybe just a little to large.
Its hard to say for sure. You wont get much better than this on a restoration!

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs

 

I think he just did the cold air box, not the whole car.

 

OK, so you've found a few mistakes in our restoration of 2643. I hope everyone else's car is receiving the same scrutiny!

The short explanation to most of these issues is the relative lack of photographic evidence available to us at the time that we decided to pull the trigger and put the car back to it's 1961 LeMans livery. For instance, the post above with the color pictures are the only three that I have ever seen from LeMans in 1961. And, I had only ever seen the one of it up on the lift before that post!!

At some point you have to pull the trigger and run with what you have, and that is what we did.

As I posted earlier in this thread, the color on the car is known to be correct as I was able to find it underneath multiple layers of paint in the door jamb.

The color of the stripes being reversed is simply an embarassing oversight made possible by the fact that we had NO color pictures of the car. Its my fault, and we'll probably fix it at some point.

You'll also note that the car had a small red stripe down the side of the body. Again, while we knew that there was supposed to be a "red side stripe" somewhere, we had no color photographs of the car and decided to omit it altogether as opposed to getting it wrong. As you can see from the B&W pics, it is very difficult to tell that there is a stripe on the car at all. We may decide to add this later as well.

As for the shape of the body, there is a point where leaving original metal alone is more important that replicating the car's original shape EXACTLY. The car had a number of instances of damage in the period and the repairs from those have Slightly changed the shape of the nose. The metal was all in good shape and we decided to leave it alone.

Because this car has an impeccable provenance, I have no problem with you pointing out problems with the car and have really enjoyed the unearthing of new photos.

In fact, there are a couple of other small mistakes that we made for the same reasons (not pictured.) See if you can figure it out!

 

Maybe the tabs on the lower nose and marker lights.
I think this is one of the better restorations I have seen.
I am building the Technomodel model kit of this car. Did you see
and metalic blue paint under the Lemans 1961 blue paint??
The early press photos of the car look metalic blue, not grey blue.
I know your car is correct for Lemans 1961.

Great job.


Tom Tanner/Scale Designs

 

+1

Thanks for this wonderful car....

.... if you would not have pulled the trigger at some point, the car would have never been restored.

regards, Till.

 

No. This is the color that the car was painted by Pininfarina when it was new. No metallic until the Daytona paint job when Moss drove the car.

Good luck with the model!

 

Thanks for the info. I always wondered about the color.

Best,

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs

 

#2643GT at Bridgehampton in 1964 (Robert Bohl photo).
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à quelle épreuve? et l'équipage. et le résultat???
S T P

es-ce que je t'en pose des question!!!