Radar Detectors/Laser Jammers

I know a lot of owners also rely on Waze, but my experience (two friends) is that method is not close to being reliable, helpful in other ways, but certainly cannot rely on that program to prevent tickets (but it does sound good to get the "police reported ahead" alert). Problem is, they have Waze as well (my Son-in-law is State Police), and move regularly, so you've got to hope there are many users on the road that day, and willing to contribute.


Jim

 

All of that said, I may install a full system at some point, just need to get the feeling they're worth the trouble.


Jim

 

Since you are being real here...why not make the statement that you want to use a detector/jammer to assist you in being able to drive faster than you should and not be ticketed for same. Is that correct? And you want this because of the "reality" that everyone else is driving faster? Group think can be a good thing but, as JimPVB stated, all it takes is one mistake by any number of roadway issues and your detector becomes useless unless one of the issues is a cop using a radar gun and it inadvertently allows you to speed up the your standard approximate 2 second response time down to a bit more manageable <1 second. This may be the difference between you just getting a ticket or something much worse so, in that case, the detector/jammer actually may save a life. But why put yourself in that situation? These cars can get sideways on a public road quickly and, unless you track a lot or spend a lot of time with a professional driving teacher, your detector will not be able to protect you in a possibly bad situation.

Thrills on an on-ramp aside, please drive more with your DUTSL than you do your detector/jammer. If you have the need-for-speed on public roads please remember to refer to your driving ability more than you do your detector's ability to keep you from getting a ticket. I know I would thank you and I am sure that most other drivers would as well.

 

Just as an FYI, here's a great website for researching radar detectors, jammers and dashcams etc.

https://www.vortexradar.com/

 

Dear oh dear. What is the world coming too. Do you have to assume others can’t drive their ferrari properly and have no respect for themselves nor other road users. Driving fast does not come hand in hand with a complete disregard for safety. The idiot in the SUV shouldn’t have been there, if she had a brain, she would have been in the correct lane and saved herself the scare. Ferrari owners are no different to any others with, as you put it, a need for speed, and id suggest a higher percentage of ferrari and supercar owners drive more considerately and safely than the majority of others in that situation. If you want to go fast and risk the cops tagging you, so what?, big deal. Those that want to go slow just get on with it, but don’t be surprised by others overtaking you at speed, it’s their right to drive how they want as much as it is yours. Just keep your eyes open for faster traffic and don’t be a nuisance to the majority


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Daytona...so you are stating that it is okay to drive fast (again...my statement was 35% above the speed limit) as long as you have a detector and that folks that drive slower than you should just get out of your way because you have as many rights as they do on the road? Doesn't this take away the rights of the SUV driver when your rights supersede theirs because they are driving 48 in a 50 and you are driving 68 in a 50? Should the minority practice driving only by rear view mirror? Do you agree that driving 68 in a 50 versus 48 in a 50 is a disregard for the safety of others driving around you?

I apologize for the inquisition above. Your post is, well, interesting as to how it possibly relates to Ferrari autocracy. Drive safe, don't speed and, if you do, keep other drivers safety as the center of your focus thereby not requiring a permission nor an apology.

 

Who made you or the suv driver a policeman? Last time I checked, there were no electronic nannies on any cars in the western world preventing us from using our brains and individual skill sets to drive faster or slower than limits. Courtesy, however, extends both ways. If I or anyone else wants to drive faster than some arbitrary limit, or someone like you or the idiot in the wrong lane want to drive slower, who are you or I to prescribe to either what is right or wrong?

The fact is that if I want to drive at 200% of the limit on a road, as long as I do it sensibly and with due regard for others around, and am capable of coping and the car is capable of the same, then I can, and will, and frequently do, drive like that. I haven’t crashed in 30 years of driving, so I am clearly competent. If you are so nervous of hitting someone, then I applaud you for realising your limitations and driving appropriately. Please make sure, however, you aren’t like the idiot in the suv and that you DO please keep an eye on your mirrors as well as in front of you, since faster more competent drivers have a right to expect that your lack of speed does not impede or endanger them

 

Way too much Red Bull.

 

Only with vodka, only in Vegas, and definately never before I drive. You can’t expect to have no one disagree with your higher than thou style of posting on a forum about fast cars and enjoying life. I have every respect for your attitude to driving, I only said you should be sure to stay out the way of the more progressive and exhilerated ones..... is that so unfair?

 

Suffice it to say that I use all my mirrors but find driving a more of a give-and-take event. I respect others rights on the road and pray that they respect mine. Worrying about who is behind me and whether they have his/her foot in the firewall of any car is just one of my concerns. I can drive for me but cannot predict what you may do, therefore, I find it easier to maintain my speeds a bit more sensibly when I am driving in what I consider uncontrollable situations(city driving, rush hour, etc.). The fact that you consider speeding "progressive" is interesting. I will have to ponder on that one for a while. As far as my "higher than thou" style of posting, well, I really don't read them that way. For your benefit they were certainly not meant to be taken that way, however, I do stand by my statements and concerns about those that find it exhilarating to drive at extremely high speeds with other drivers, usually not as accomplished as you claim you are, hovering around in Kia's and Hyundai's. I hope you enjoy your car to its limits and continue your 30 year tradition...and I will try to do the same with mine.

 

The fact is that in city driving, in rush hour, no one here is advocating driving like you stole it, the example you gave yourself was a ‘one other car on the road’ scenario where for some reason, you felt responsible for someone who clearly shouldn’t be on the road with her lack of skill and regard for others. All you did was change lanes and manoever around her, just as a ferrari is built to do safely. That she spun around is her problem, not yours, she should have her licence removed.

Driving progressively is what i term when someone uses the skills they have learnt, a full concentration on their driving, anticipation of others, and the use of the abilities of the car..... just so we are clear. No one has suggested driving quickly should be done without reverence to road/weather/traffic conditions at the time, but it is totally possible to have some safe over the limit fun with others on the road, and it is totally acceptable for those of us that enjoy it to do it, and to expect other drivers to behave in a sensible manner and drive responsibly themselves, we are not to blame for them being idiots or incompetent, they should lose their licences for being so useless... speed does not kill, hitting things does. Speed itself may be an offence in the eye of the law, but it does not infer stupidity, incompetence, lack of safety, lack of concern for others, or any other negative

 

This back and forth has been fun...but I am not the one that had the interplay with the SUV. Take a look back on the posts and you will see author of that story. Now, back to me-n-you...you are 100% correct...speed in and of itself does not infer stupidity, incompetence, etc., however, speed coupled with the wrong driving situation (bad road, poor visibility, too much traffic, etc.) DOES infer stupidity, incompetence, lack of safety, etc. It is not WHAT one does with speed...it is WHEN one uses it. Use it at the right time and it'll make you famous...at the wrong time, well, I have beaten that horse into the ground so I won't bore you with my unprogressive driving technique theories. Again, enjoy your car and I will continue to enjoy mine.

Btw OP...sorry for the hijack! I let my discussion with 355 ruin your thread. Sincere apology. I have installed many detectors in my cars and have never found one that completely remedied the false alarm issue. Jammers just aren't my bag so I skipped them and decided that using the detector in my head was much better. Others swear by all the ways you can detect smokey but I just always found them to be to early, to late or not at all...but I suppose a beep of some sort could help if one feels the need to stretch the legs of their particular car.

 

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This morning, I found myself at just a bit over 200% of the limit on a lovely stretch of road, and I couldn’t help but snigger about this thread - and that was in a Range Rover Sport supercharged, in aero mode of course


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In our country active detectors are illegal since some years, penalty is $300 if caught ... and the device will be destroyed.

How is that in your country ?

 

From what I know radar detectors are perfectly legal here in the UK. It is also legal to install laser jammers on your vehicle, however it is illegal use them to jam laser guns.

If you are caught using jammers, then you are looking to face prosecution.

 

It used to be here that way also ... but not anymore ...

 

Bang on. Whenever I get stopped, the first thing I do is shut off the jammers. The cops can only do something if they can prove yo7 caused their equipment to fail. When they fire at the jammers, they get a error signal, this then makes them think you’ve jammed them, and in my experience, if you slam on the anchors hard, the jammers cycles and goes off, they then get a reading at the limit (or at least reduced from your original speed) and they can’t do a thing.

If the cop still stops you, remember that they MUST PROVE YOUR SPEED WITH A MEASURING DEVICE, ie their laser, UNLESS YOU ADMIT you were speeding/too fast/very quick etc. Then they need no proof at all. If you admit to jamming them, they can nick you for preventing the police from their duties - Imprisonable offence - so don’t. If they ask about it, it’s a garage door/gates opener, and don’t have it on for them to check it. They have no right to make you switch it on, as they cannot prove their equipment did not have an intermittent fault resulting in their error message, so can’t confirm it was down to you or your car.

In the UK, the law states that if you admit the offence, they can fine you for speeding automatically and you get points on your licence and a fine, if you admit the speed you were going, they can, if it’s high enough, send you to court. If you are stopped, and they ask the question ‘why have we stopped you/why do you think we stopped you? This is done to give you the opportunity to admit the offence, and is done mostly when they have no proof themselves of your guilt, which, in order to fine you, they MUST have. Its extremely rare that any cop car other than a dedicated traffic unit will have the correct calibration or equipment on board to prove to a court your speed sufficient to stick you on, so if stopped by a village bobby, always feign innocence, and answer the question with ‘I don’t know, I was driving within the limits and paying attention to my driving’. It is then up to them to either prove the reason for the stop, or let you on your way.

Of course, they will use the opportunity to check your documents/insurance, to check your tyres, noisy exhaust, even accuse (me as a teetotaller outside of Vegas !) you of smelling of alcohol to test you for drink driving just to be awkward and try to justify some time delays for you, it they cannot give you a ticket. I know, plenty have tried, sometimes several times a week, but I stand my ground and repeatedly and politely will ask them why they stopped me, and with what measuring equipment they may have monitored my driving performance. They get nasty, but can’t do a thing.

I have lots of stories about them stopping me and trying it on, and I’m more than happy to share, but I don’t want to hijack the thread