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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by JOEA2, Mar 6, 2006.

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  1. J Nicks

    J Nicks Karting

    Dec 4, 2003
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    That's funny.
     
  2. C4talyst

    C4talyst Karting

    May 28, 2005
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    So untrue. If your detector goes off and indicates a laser (LIDAR) hit, and you have no countermeasures installed, then yes, it's just notification that you are about to be busted. However, detecting K and Ka band radar from two miles away, like I did on the drive home from work late last night, ensures you have plenty of time to slow down. I have an escort 8500 x50 btw, it and the V1 are entirely comparable, it's almost impossible to say one is better than the other. THe V1 has arrows to alert you from which direction the radar is coming from, if you need that. The best site for more info is radardetector.net.
     
  3. Llenroc

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    Couldn't agree more Dave I have used mine V1 for years it sees out so far that it picks up the people(beeps) in front of me and warns me long before I get to the radar/laser. The only time they don't work well is if its just you and him out there but, if there are other cars out there I here their racket long before its my turn on the radar screen(with traffic these days there is always another car in frt of you, even in Montana). The V1 has saved me many times over the years. Regards, Vern
     
  4. bjm

    bjm Formula Junior

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    I dont use a laser in any of our cars..gives a false sense of security IMO. Use common sense and keep your eyes up scanning far ahead for big sedan looking cars(crown victoria's in my area dead giveaway) sitting at the side of the highway, perched up on grassy knolls, embankments etc! or some other obvious location that gives them a clear laser shot at traffic. And my favorite pay attention to break lights of the cars in front of you..great early warning system of potential danger ahead.
     
  5. Testacojones

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    Thats one of many examples on how not to get busted. Trust your radar detector or other devices and sooner than later the pigs will get you.
     
  6. Testacojones

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    Yes you can detect K or Ka bands from a long distance, but if you are all alone speeding then it will be of little use. The cops will wait until you are close enough and will get you, but if there is as usual traffic around you, then most likely you can speed keeping you eyes wide alert for signals of cops ahead or behind you, it will be hard to get busted. My point is that I speed as often with or without a radar detector and I have come to notice that I have better luck without a radar detector, my judgement is the best way to stay out of trouble.
     
  7. JOEA2

    JOEA2 Formula 3

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    Being in a Red Ferrari doesn't help!!!!
     
  8. Little Joe

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    I got a V1 around 2 months ago and I love it. As some posters have mentioned, use common sense, it doesn't make you immune. Make sure you can see far ahead of you, watch breaklights, don't speed when you're alone and the only target. The V1 is really good with x, k, ka, and i get a lot of falses on laser. If a police car is on the road and driving while still shooting radar, that is because it subtracts the speed of the car from the reading. So, if you're in a 35 mph zone, he's driving with radar on and he reads 90. Subtract his 40 from the 90 and it reads 50. (Simple math) That's why you'll see the detector go off while they are on the road and driving.

    My main complaint about the V1 is the suction cups. They suck!
     
  9. THE BEAST 360

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  10. Ingenere

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    Your original post pretty much states that either you are buying junk or you can't grasp how to use a quality detector....or you've got your cojones in a bit of a knot!

    btw..........get the V1 and hardwire it!
     
  11. Testacojones

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    I understand how to use these systems, but I always end up with my cojones in a bit of a knot. The worst system I ever had was the K40 radar, laser jammer etc. It was a piece of junk.
     
  12. dpayne7571

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    Here's my question, I have a V1 also, but if a cop is on the entrance ramp being sneaky shooting radar, will the V1 pick it up since the radar is not being shot at me, but ahead of me if you understand what I'm saying here? State cops love to sit on the entrance ramps and shoot the gun as cars pass by.
     
  13. THE BEAST 360

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    The radar will usually bounce off of a car in front of you and give you an alert, even they are using instant on. Ka band radar will be the hardest to detect under these circumstances. If they are using laser you will not get any alert until the gun is on you. This is assuming your V-1 has a rear laser sensor. BTW if you are concerned about laser you can also get the Blinder Xtreme with 4 transmiters 2 for the front and 2 for the rear.
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  14. C4talyst

    C4talyst Karting

    May 28, 2005
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    Umm, you detect K or Ka band, you slow down, you pass cops, you speed up again. If you detect radar from a long distance, they do not have a reading on you yet, not even close. I agree with anyone who says to use good judgement, be aware and look for brake lights of other drivers down the road. However, if you have good judgement and technology on your side, you are _more_ protected.

    You cannot buy a radar/laser detector and expect it to simply save you flawlessly from there on. You have to educate yourself on the technologies the police have, how they use them, and how you can circumvent them.
     
  15. hardtop

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    Not true, I have picked up laser when it was used on cars in front of me and had plenty of time to slow down.

    Dave
     
  16. tails

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    I don't own a Ferrari (yet!), but in my STi I have a hardwired V1 and I swear by it. I estimate it's saved me from 2 tickets so far (early K/Ka detection), but it didn't help much when I got nailed with LIDAR recently. Adding a Blinder Extreme is next on my list. I'm happy to do the installation myself, but I'd appreciate any recommendations for US retailers?

    Also, should I be concerned about the lack of rear coverage with the default two-front-sensor install?

    Thanks!
     
  17. THE BEAST 360

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    I'm not that concerned about rear detection--the State Police here are too lazy (I hope I didn't offend too may people here with that statement). They don't believe in chasing you any more they would rather walk out in the highway (while you are speeding, point at you, and tell you to pull over-- HMMMM sounds lazy and Stupid to me.
    I had to install the Blinder myself because I couldn't find a retailer in my area that wanted to touch the F-car. If you look at the Blinder website I believe they have a list of retailers and you could contact one of them to do the job.
     
  18. Testacojones

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    I know what you're saying to be true and I'm well educated about it, but I have better luck not using any devices! Maybe the "force" is strong in me...
     
  19. chris marsh

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    I bought Bel RX65. I read all of the reviews and it was rated the same as the V1 for detection with less false alarms.
     
  20. THE BEAST 360

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    I bought the same Bel RX65 to try it out. I realized that it is shipped with the POP mode off. After I turned it on the thing drove me nuts with false alarms. IMO the reason a lot of Internet sights like the unit is because they sell it and can make a profit. Valentine will not let them sell the V-1. So if the Internet sights say that the V-1 wins not many people would buy products from them and they wouldn't make much money. That said it is personal preference enjoy.
     
  21. Rachane

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  22. enjoythemusic

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    Not sure of this will work as if you are accelerating or decelerating then the pitch of the engine changes. Their device relies on a steady-state sound to be accurate. Easy to beat in court IMHO.
     
  23. don_xvi

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  24. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    Has anyone mention a Valentine 1 yet? LoL They are the absolute best and really have no competition here in the USA. I've used one for the last 10 years or so and have had my butt saved on many an occasion...and I have put a Bel and Passport up on teh windshield before to compare...and the V1 beat them by a large margin...
     
  25. Rachane

    Rachane Formula 3

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    As I understand it, it does not measure sound levels per se, but rather changes in the Doppler Effect, which would be unaffected by engine speed:

    http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=doppler+effect&gwp=13
     

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