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  1. FredParoutaud

    FredParoutaud Formula 3

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    #1 FredParoutaud, Oct 26, 2004
    Hi Folks,

    I'm writing an article for the San Jose Business Journal about radar/laser detectors. They like to hear what the Ferrari guys have to say cuz, frankly, there are a lot of Ferrari owners in Silicon Valley!

    Do you guys use detectors? And if so what kind? And what kind of success rates are you finding?

    I'm also particularly interested in hearing from posters in the bay area, since I'm driving on the 280/101 a lot. I have a Lamborghini 400GT, but I bought it because I couldn't afford my dream car, a Ferrari Lusso. :( Oh well, one day.

    Anyway, any info is appreciated, and I'll post a few tidbits as I come across them. For example, I didn't realize that the police are now testing video/still cameras on their radar/laser guns. Going to be hard to beat that in court.

    Best,

    Fred
     
  2. 2000YELLOW360

    2000YELLOW360 F1 World Champ

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    #2 2000YELLOW360, Oct 26, 2004
    Valentine1 is the best. I use it frequently in the Bay Area. Tells you where they are, and works very, very well.
     
  3. mondial86

    mondial86 Formula Junior

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    #3 mondial86, Oct 26, 2004
    V.1 I don't leave home with out it
    it is so much better than anything else !!!!!!!!!!!
    DAVID
     
  4. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

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    #4 SrfCity, Oct 26, 2004
    At the risk of giving "the boys in blue" more info then they need, I use an Escort 8500. It seems to do the trick and not sure if the V1 is really any better. The better ones will definately help you from getting popped.
     
  5. 4i2fly

    4i2fly Formula 3

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    #5 4i2fly, Oct 26, 2004
    Valentine 1 and unless the chp points it suddenly and clock you there is no way it lets you down. It works 100% of time otherwise.
     
  6. Tifosi1

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    #6 Tifosi1, Oct 26, 2004
    In the swamp we use the V1
     
  7. FredParoutaud

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    #7 FredParoutaud, Oct 26, 2004
  8. Steve King

    Steve King F1 Rookie

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    #8 Steve King, Oct 26, 2004
    Don't use one up here in NY. Don't speed so we don't need them. Besides the SP's know us by name up here. Only need to drive in 2nd gear at red line to get the same thrill. Works good in the small towns.
     
  9. 4i2fly

    4i2fly Formula 3

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    #9 4i2fly, Oct 26, 2004
    No, but are they adaptive/samrt to catch you by surprise or they shine radar continously and if they get a fault then they take a picture? If the latter, I would not worry carrying V1...
     
  10. 285ferrari

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    #10 285ferrari, Oct 26, 2004
    Become a police officer like I did and you don't need one of those things.!!!
     
  11. BriSalig

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    #11 BriSalig, Oct 26, 2004
    I use a V1, anytime and always. It has proven to be a great friend to me.
     
  12. Jdubbya

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    #12 Jdubbya, Oct 26, 2004

    Unless of course you start talking about lasers!

    By the way I use a V1 but also have a good lawyer just for back-up!
     
  13. UroTrash

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    #13 UroTrash, Oct 26, 2004
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  14. Myhorse

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    #14 Myhorse, Oct 26, 2004
    Another one for V1 here.
    Mount it to your windshield and hot wire it to the hot wire of you radio harness.

    Works 100% of the time for me
     
  15. ignacio

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    #15 ignacio, Oct 26, 2004
    imo detectors are annoying, misleading, and worthless. be observant and find a good lawyer for backup. also avoid owning a red or yellow car.
     
  16. ETW

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    #16 ETW, Oct 26, 2004
    Try the search function. Wheres Doody? We need him to post the God Kills a Puppy picture
     
  17. FredParoutaud

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    #17 FredParoutaud, Oct 27, 2004
    Will do...

    Are these the three ways you can beat a speeding ticket?


    Currently, you can get lucky and beat the ticket if:
    - the issuing officer doesn’t show in court
    - you successfully claim that there is no corresponding visual evidence
    - you successfully claim that the officer targetted the wrong vehicle.

    Are these correct? Are there more?

    Thanks,

    Fred
     
  18. 4i2fly

    4i2fly Formula 3

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    #18 4i2fly, Oct 27, 2004
    WHat sort of article are your writing and what are you? Why would you wantt to publish different ways of beating traffic tickets?
     
  19. FredParoutaud

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    #19 FredParoutaud, Oct 27, 2004
    I'm writing an article about radar/laser detectors for the San Jose Business Journal, and I'm just quoting this article from a recent Motor Trend:

    >>Emerging Threats Tip Scales In Police Favor
    At the El Paso testing, Motor Trend was able to check out a few radar devices that will allow law enforcement to again tip the balance back in their favor. The most notable are laser guns with integrated cameras, now entering service use. The same technology that has made digital cameras so popular and affordable is being applied to traditional laser guns, where a heads-up display (HUD) shows the officer the targeted vehicle and when he squeezes the trigger, the front of the vehicle is photographed and the image is time/date stamped with distance and speed automatically. No longer will you be able to claim in court that the officer incorrectly targeted your vehicle. With a camera-equipped laser gun, the officer's testimony of speeding with no corresponding visual evidence will be a thing of the past. Laser guns currently outfitted with digital cameras include the LTI Digi-Cam, Kustom Signals, Laser Atlanta, and Stalker.

    Other near-term future threats are in-car video systems, as seen on reality television shows, that can be integrated into in-vehicle radar and laser speed measuring devices. In El Paso we checked out Stalker's new StalkerVision. Like camera-equipped laser guns, StalkerVision gives irrefutable visual evidence of a speeding violation and in some jurisdictions offers the advantage of substituting for the required appearance of the officer who issued the speeding citation. No longer will you skate on a speeding violation if the officer does not show - he's no longer required to be in attendance, just the incriminating tape or digital image. In jurisdictions where employed, the plead rate now approaches 100 percent guilty.
    <<

    Fred
     
  20. Kewpie

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    #20 Kewpie, Oct 27, 2004
    do you mean you dont speed as a police officer anymore?
    or do you mean you get away with breaking laws as an officer?
     
  21. 4i2fly

    4i2fly Formula 3

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    #21 4i2fly, Oct 27, 2004
    Basically, what you are quoting is the end of conventional radar detector. What I don't understand how writing an article about radar detectors and their technical capability has to do with beating tickets. They are two separate subjects unless you are planning on writing a separate article.

    The title of your post does not match your questions!
     
  22. M.James

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    #22 M.James, Oct 27, 2004
    Driving a Ferrari without a Radar/laser Detector is like playing in the NFL without a helmet.

    I have serious issues with what appears to be "Selective Enforcement" of Speeding violations.....the 'family folks" in their poorly-designed SUVs or MiniVans get a pass, but people driving high-performance sports cars that are actually designed to travel at higher speeds, safely, are targeted by Law Enforcement.

    My car can take corners at 70 MPH that most commercially available, mass-produced vehicles out there cannot negotiate at speeds higher than 45 MPH. Likewise, my car has (or can be modified to have) a shorter stopping distance than most vehicles on the highway today. If the capabilities of my vehicle exceed the existing threshold of safety for a particular posted speed limit, why is my vehicle singled-out while most idiots I share the road with get away with more risky behavior?

    Speeding enforcment appears to be more closely tied to local-Government revenue generation than about Public Safety. Look at the numbers generated by NTSA - deaths are going down, more people are driving, and probably everyone is technically 'speeding' in areas where traffic congestion doesn't prevent it. If Cops spent about as much research tracking suspected Terrorists as they do Speeders, Osama Bin Laden might be in jail right now for Aggressive Driving....but then again, he might not be able to pay his fine or post bail with real dollars, so he's not as valuable to Law Enforcement as a red Ferrari.
     
  23. Steve King

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    #23 Steve King, Oct 27, 2004
    MJ you have hit most of this on the head. The cars are made for speed , speeding tickets are revenue generators , but Osama is dead. The problem here is most folks who buy these type of cars want to drive them fast and reckless. We drivers think we are better then we are so when you come on a 55mph driver and you're doin triple digits something happens. And for us 25 yr + cars a 60mph crash either leaves you dead or brain damaged. So enjoy the view speed kills.
     
  24. FredParoutaud

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    #24 FredParoutaud, Oct 27, 2004
    The article will be an overview, and new developments such as the camera ID are designed to prevent folks from beating tickets. From what I've read for background, some (most?) folks just pay their tickets or do traffic school -- the new camera developments are obviously not designed (at great cost) for them. Cameras are designed for positive ID, and positive ID is really only important for folks that want to try and beat a ticket by showing up in court.

    Anyway, the article's not about that, it's about radar detectors. I'm just trying to understand the overall picture.

    Best regards,

    Fred
     
  25. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

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    #25 SrfCity, Oct 27, 2004
    How are they going to positively ID someone with sunglasses and ball cap? I understand that's one way of getting out of it now.......
     
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