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Ralph Lauren Cars Exhibition in Paris

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  1. ludo95

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    #26 ludo95, May 7, 2011
    l' Idea Ferrari 1990, Florence
     
  2. Ferraripilot

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    #27 Ferraripilot, May 7, 2011
    I just returned from Paris and tried to hit the exhibition last Sunday but the museum was closed! The show is being advertised all over the place out there for sure though. Pics of a D-type litter the public transportation areas.
     
  3. DAYTONASME

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    #28 DAYTONASME, May 7, 2011
    +1

    Ed
     
  4. laperriere

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    #29 laperriere, May 7, 2011
    I investigate and send an mp!
    Olivier

     
  5. MalibuGuy

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    #30 MalibuGuy, May 7, 2011
    When you say that Ralph's cars are excessively restored, do you mean that enginework is no longer original or that body panels are altered?

    I could see how paintwork might be redone and improved to a level beyond the 1960 Ferrari factory. And of course original leather may have been replaced.

    Nice pic of your Dino Comp (?). But didnt you re-do the doors in carbon fiber during the restoration?
     
  6. geno berns

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    #31 geno berns, May 7, 2011
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    What a great setting for our amazing Dino! Is that a 365 GT4/BB in the back ground?

    Geno.

     
  7. DAYTONASME

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    #32 DAYTONASME, May 7, 2011
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    Paul Russell and Co has global recognition for its work, more especially in the maintenance and restoration of several of Ralph Lauren's cars...some people call it "over restoration" or would they prefer for cars to be mostly hidden from view, or "dead", like at Schlumpf?

    At least some collectors are investing in rebuilds, which are supporting employment and hopefully maintaining niche skills for the future.

    Personally I'd prefer to see a mud splattered 250SWB or discoloured tail on a pre war Alfa Monza anyday, but for 100 people with 100 cars..there's 100 reasons why they have them.... united by a common bond..enthusiasm

    Ed
     
  8. msdesignltd

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    #33 msdesignltd, May 9, 2011
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    Anyone claiming over restored ....is just sour Grapes.

    These collections will live in Infamey lonnnnnng past the original collectors Life span...set em up now and let em live.
     
  9. Napolis

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    #34 Napolis, May 9, 2011
    Nope we didn't redo anything. We have the original doors and the original wheels with their original tires and original Pininfarina air therein.

    We made a duplicate set of doors in carbon fiber as the original doors are so heavy that Meg was unable to open them from inside which we fit when we drive the car. As I also drive my cars at speed I fit a new set of wheels and tires, which were manufactured and installed by PF. The original doors, wheels and tires can be refitted easily anytime I want to trap a passenger or risk my life on 45 year old tires.

    Dino Competizione's chassis painting was very rough. There was over spray, hand/brush painted red on the lines that carry water and oil so PF wouldn't drill into them when building the car. This is how the chassis looked when the car was manufactured. This is how it looks today. As Andrea Pininfarina told me looking out at the Field at Pebble:
    "This is not how the cars we built looked when they left our factory."

    Before Andrea died he restarted Pininfarina's restoration business. Dino Competizione was the first car they restored. JT's SWB was the second and BP's Lancia was the third. Sadly PF is no longer restoring cars.
     
  10. MalibuGuy

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    #35 MalibuGuy, May 9, 2011
    It is compliment to the factory and the owners that these old cars can still run. Even if some of them are too shiny and polished or good looking.

    Somehow I think that all of these special race cars were destined to change once they left the factory. Ferrari wanted them to be put into action on the race track. The owners modified, crashed, broke, repaired and repainted. They cared about winning. Contests about speed that is, not ones about beauty or historical correctness.
     
  11. Napolis

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    #36 Napolis, May 9, 2011
    P 4/5 Competizione may be the last of the Competition/Street Ferrari's.

    Next Saturday she'll be racing a 6 hour at The Nurburgring.

    The following Saturday she'll be Competing at The Concours at Villa d'Este.

    At both the Ring and Villa d'Este she'll be competing against Ferrari factory built and supported teams and Special Projects.

    We look forward to both events...
     
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    #37 VIZSLA, May 9, 2011
    If Ferrari were so concerned about authenticity they wouldn't have played fast and loose with the Serial numbers back in the day ;)
     
  13. MalibuGuy

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    #38 MalibuGuy, May 9, 2011
    Fantastic! Good Luck on both contests!
     
  14. MalibuGuy

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    #39 MalibuGuy, May 9, 2011
    That is such a bummer. I thought from the museum website the exhibit is open on Sundays.
     
  15. AxerJk

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    #40 AxerJk, May 9, 2011
    Did you have that car at the 2009 Meadowbrook Concours d'elegance in Michigan? I remember seeing that.


    I saw his collection in Boston back in 2005, and the cars I didn't see that are shown at the Paris show were the Jaguar XKSS, McLaren F1 LM (his standard F1 was there), Ferrari 250LM, among a few others.

    He did have a Porsche 959 at the Boston one, which I don't see in the videos here.

    Chris
     
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    #41 Napolis, May 9, 2011
    Yes.
     
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    #42 VIZSLA, May 9, 2011
    The accompanying book is apparently still available at the Boston museum shop and on line.
     
  18. MalibuGuy

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    #43 MalibuGuy, May 9, 2011
    I've heard that the RL car collection is valued at 300M!
     
  19. BigTex

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    #44 BigTex, May 9, 2011
    It's an XKSS, I thought......pretty enough but they would not be rare except for the fire at the Jaguar Factory.

    There's at least one, rolling around here.
     
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    #45 VIZSLA, May 9, 2011
    As I remember there were one of each in his collection.
     
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    #46 BigTex, May 9, 2011
    I thought that might be the case.....thanks!!!
     
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    #47 BigTex, May 9, 2011
    I doubt the 959 could leave the U.S. and return...
     
  23. AxerJk

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    #48 AxerJk, May 9, 2011
    Good point, I didn't think of that....

    Chris
     
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    #49 BigTex, May 9, 2011
    There was a handful brought in for Show and Display but permanent staus was far more elusive troublesome...

    I think even under show and display waivers they eventually have to leave if not DOT certified....it's a bond that posted with the Feds.

    I'm certainly not an expert tho...
     
  25. VIZSLA

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    #50 VIZSLA, May 9, 2011
    How are they different from a "grey market" 288 or a McLaren F1 ?
     
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