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Random, stupid question regarding oil changes (355)

Discussion in '348/355' started by Schwartz, Apr 7, 2011.

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  1. Schwartz

    Schwartz Karting

    Nov 21, 2007
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    What is required (as in removal of parts) in order to gain access to the oil filter on a 355? Someone is trying to convince me that it is 100% necessary to remove motor mounts to change the oil, which I'm having difficulty believing.
     
  2. plugzit

    plugzit F1 Veteran
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    IIRC, you need to remove the underbody aero that's below the drain plug. Depending on whether a gorilla put the oil filter on, the only thing you need to remove topside is the filter itself. Maybe a 355 owner can correct me?
    I wouldn't ask the guy who said motor mounts for any advice again.
     
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  3. vvassallo

    vvassallo F1 Veteran

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    I think that is right. We did a few at my place last year on Stooge Annual Maintenance Day, IIRC. Remove the undertrays (what a pain!) to expose the drain plug. I think it's also wise to lift the car from the rear a bit. Drain the tank, naturally, before removing the oil filter or it gets especially messy.
     
  4. Schwartz

    Schwartz Karting

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    So, just to verify, no bracing, mounts, cross members, or anything of that nature even need to be touched? As in, it changes just like every other car ever made pretty much?

    Shocking...I'll be sure to relay this information to the idiot proclaiming himself as a mechanical genius. =)


    Thanks guys.
     
  5. spaghetti_jet

    spaghetti_jet Formula Junior

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    Precise procedure as follows:
    lift car
    remove rear aero undertray (8xcross-head screws, 4x8mm nuts)
    remove oil tank drain plug (22mm nut)
    remove oil pan plug (12mm hex plug)

    from above, unscrew oil filter (literally the first thing you see in the engine bay)

    That's it.
     
  6. yelcab

    yelcab F1 World Champ
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    Well ...

    Don't forget to put all those things back...
     
  7. MManzonelli

    MManzonelli Karting

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    This is correct...Nothing else to remove.....
     
  8. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    +1, that is all.
    Get your oil change kit from Ricambi, and you will have everything you need (new plugs, new copper crush washers, and filter). A strap wrench is helpful to remove the filter. If you are super anal, you can buy the superbly constructed socket tool made by Hill Engineering and sold by Ricambi to not only remove the filter, but also to properly tighten it to the correct torque. I have always done this by hand, but bought the socket tool a couple years ago....it is nice "to be sure" it is on right. ;)
     
  9. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Affirmative. Ferrari tech data evolves. The 550 was also "hand tighten", but the 575M, which is essentialy identical in maintenance, recommends torquing the oil filters. Lessons learned incorporated into tech data.

    Just like they evolved from Steiger meters for belt tension to frequency tensiometers.

    Taz
    Terry Phillips
     
  10. mike_747

    mike_747 Formula Junior

    Dec 15, 2008
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    Just to clarify, after you remove the underside panels you have 2 drain plugs to remove, one for the sump and one for the oil tank.
    Be sure and torque the oil filter or you risk an oil leak at the filter O ring.
    After putting in 8 quarts of oil, start the engine and let it idle until it gets to 125 degrees on the oil gauge, then add oil checking often to get the level correct. do this while the engine is running. It should take 9 qts more or less. Otherwise it is easy to over fill and this will result in a stumbling engine and check engine lights.
     
  11. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Adam, don't ever feel that a question you may have is "stupid" (in reference to the thread title). As you can see, everyone on this board is happy and willing to assist...so if you have ANY questions at all, ask away!! (Well, will the exception of the question "when should I change my timing belts" :p)
     
  12. spaghetti_jet

    spaghetti_jet Formula Junior

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    I always drain the oil while it's warm & as an added twist, for the last few years I've been undoing the lower oil cooler pipe at the radiator every-other oil change. The one that goes from the flange on the oil tank to the bottom of the oil cooler. I get at least another litre of oil out that way, sometimes more. Plus I always remove the oil filter while the drain plugs are out, that seems to help a bit more old oil come out.

    All of the above are not "the procedure" but I like to try & get as much old oil out as possible.
     
  13. ClydeM

    ClydeM F1 World Champ
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    Do you remember the size? Maybe 32mm? I'll have to buy another wrench for that one.
     
  14. Monteman

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    Anyone who said that has never been around a 355. The oil filter is one of the first things you see when you raise the engine cover. If that was your mechanic....RUN and RUN very fast!!!
     
  15. FLORIDAsnakeEyes

    FLORIDAsnakeEyes Formula 3
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    I am bringing this thread back for a few reasons.

    After searching i found all these oils in F355s...

    Royal Purple 5w-40
    Redline 10w40


    what are you using???
     
  16. cf355

    cf355 F1 Rookie

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    using Mobil 1 0w40 Euro synthetic oil for the last 10 years...
     
  17. FCOnyx

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    +1 on that for 2 years
     
  18. The Outcast

    The Outcast Formula 3

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    I've been too much of a chicken to use anything except Ultra Euro (and now Platinum Euro) in the crankcase, but the guys on this board know A LOT about oil so if they're using it, it's kosher.

    For the gearbox, I tried Royal Purple and the performance of the gearbox was noticeably worse, so I went back to Rotra (and before that, Spirax) and it's been cool. Maybe I've got a quirky gearbox, but it only likes the Shell for some reason.
     
  19. FCOnyx

    FCOnyx Formula Junior
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    Heheheh. Well played, Sir... well played. Thanks for the laugh.

    And on-topic, it's a Ferrari, but it's still just a car. Nothing exotic required to change the oil. Spaghetti_jet's steps (and YelCab's reversal) are all that's necessary.

    Make sure you let the filter drain for a while (or, less-preferred but I do it, punch a hole in it) so it can fully drain. It'll hold about a half quart of oil and on my first change it was still holding it when I popped it. Oil all down both side of the block to the garage floor. :p
     
  20. TrojanFan

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    Royal Purple for the last 2 changes and using it again for my oil change next month at the Stoogeapalloza.
     
  21. bobzdar

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    Mobil 1 0w40 euro blend for the last 4 years.
     
  22. FLORIDAsnakeEyes

    FLORIDAsnakeEyes Formula 3
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    yea, I am going to use that. Just got it in mail from Ricambi. Good ppl over there.
     
  23. John_K_348

    John_K_348 F1 Rookie

    Sep 20, 2013
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    I've been on Mobil 1, 0-40 this year. Runs great and maybe a little cooler even. I had to top it off some but not loosing any to leaks.
     

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