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  1. tx246

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    My mistake on the steering wheel, I saw the first picture and thought it had the wider outer rim, like a 308.

    On the vinyl seats, what makes it shiny like that? Some type of vinyl dressing? I would think the texture of the vinyl will still remain on such a low mileage care, but it looks like a smooth finish instead of grained. The headrest definitely has the grained look. IS this just an anomaly due to the photography?

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  2. tx246

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    Unless it is something spectacular, of inflation goes crazy, I don't see a $1m Dino on the near horizon.
     
  3. synchro

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    From the Dino Register it is 04676:
    The Dino Register - Production Highlights
    (scroll all the way down)


    "Wide wheels and wide fender flares-optional in 246 Dinos

    These options started appearing on 246 Dinos in the car number range of the 4000s (earliest in the register is 04676). A Dino is Germany, 03650, is said to have flares, but unknown if the option is a factory original, or not, and confirmation has not been possible. The total number of Dinos which were produced with this option is unknown, however the register has 145 cars listed which suggests there were certainly less than 200-250 so equipped. The option appears most common on USA and British version cars. The breakdown is as follows. 246GT coupes: British version-22 cars, European version-5 cars, and USA version-5 cars. 246GTS spyders: USA version-91 cars, British version-21 cars, and European version only 2 cars. It is difficult to get a good sampling of cars in Europe and the flares option on the European Dinos may not be as rare as the figures would seem to indicate.

    Factory invoices billed the wheels and flares on one line and described them as:

    In April 1973 the option added US$ 680.00 to the price of a new Dino.



    "Wheels size 7 1/2 x 14 - wider wheel housings"



    The 7 1/2 inch wide wheels were always Campagnolo "Elektron" , but the factory never called them out by name. The standard wheels they replaced were made by Cromodora - 6 1/2 inch wide.



    Ferrari enthusiasts refer to the options by various names, "Daytona package" being the most popular. "Sebring spyders" and "Chairs and flares" are also used in the USA. The British refer to them as Dinos with "big arches".



    "Daytona seats"

    Even though it is common to find Daytona seats in cars with wide fender flares and wide wheels mentioned above, it was a separate option and had to be ordered in addition to the flares and wide wheels. The owner of Dino 04878 claims to have a letter from the Ferrari factory which states that his car was the first to be equipped with daytona seats by the factory. Earlier cars are known to have them, but it is possible that owners have switched seats or had them redone with daytona inserts.

    The factory invoices described them as:

    "Daytona type central seat panels""
     
  4. isuk

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    #29 isuk, Nov 28, 2015
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    It's probably a bit of both Shawn - some form of dressing and the photography. Here is a photo of the car from the last time it was up for sale in 2011 from memory. The seats look less shiny in it.
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  5. TonyL

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    My seats are very smooth and shiny, possibly due to being 40+ years old. Slight grain on rear panels though
     
  6. synchro

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    I see they have placed the reflective door sills on top of the door jamb finish panels
     
  7. NYC123

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    In response to the prior comment about worrying about the low miles etc I certainly understand
    the concern, however I owned and sold earlier this year a black USA chairs and flares dino with similar low miles, and I must say it literally drove like a new car. No problems at all. Really loved that car.
     
  8. torquespeak

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  9. tx246

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    Ed,

    When were these pics taken?

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  10. synchro

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    ...and this is why Dinos are destined to break USD $1M; their simplicity in design and connection when the driver.
     
  11. torquespeak

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    I have the shot with the Daytona down as 1992. The other two were obviously taken together, and I'd imagine it was +/- a few months of the first photo in the same year.

    -Ed
     
  12. tx246

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    Ed,

    What can you tell us about the body/paint?

    I find it hard to believe, even given mileage is correct, that the original paint could still exist and look like this.

    Shawn
     
  13. torquespeak

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    I was six, so I can't tell you much. ;) I'm sure that others will remember the car well.

    -Ed
     
  14. Dino246gts

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    2 questions:

    1. Where in the description does it say the paint is original? It just says 11,970 original miles.

    2. Is the clock on the correct side?
     
  15. tx246

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    For question #1, that is exactly my point. It makes sure we know this car is "original", but knowing how paint ages easily, for cars of this era, I think it is a fair question to ask.

    For question #2, does the location of the clock real matter? It seems like an easy thing to move. I would also say, when it co es to UK cars, there are lots of funny quirks..... :)

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  16. isuk

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    The clock is on the correct side of the instrument panel for a RHD car.
     
  17. GermanDino

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    yes, right side of the instrument panel is correct for RHD
     
  18. torquespeak

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    From this thread: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/206-246/336294-rhd-dino-06250-where-uk-market.html

    Posted July 2011:

    -Ed
     
  19. dinogtss

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    Hi All

    I own a 1973 rhd gts it was optioned with compagnono wheels and daytona seats but no flares any idea what premium these options would bring over standard I have all the original documentation on the order from marranello concessionaires and the original order sheet
     
  20. TonyL

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    Difficult to say......some say 15% others no value at all. Personally I disagree but then I am biased because I like the Daytona pack.

    In the end it depends what the potential buyer wants I guess.
     
  21. TonyL

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    I see this car has now sold.......no idea on price.
     
  22. nico308

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    just found a picture of a red Dino with flares but the picture is probably taken in Nivelles april 15th 1973 what can not match with the delivery of this option (first being #05454 and belonged to the owner of the Alpine but was yellow and released on april 12th ) so was there a car delivered before ?

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  23. nico308

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    just find out its the wrong race it must be the Coupe Benelux on the Nivelles track (june 24th 1973)for the euro GT championship so wich red Dino was already delivered on this date?
     
  24. TonyL

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    I see the car is back up for sale again....now £600k asking price.
     
  25. Bluebottle

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    Where? Showing as Sold on THJ's Stock page at 12,300 miles (as well as under Previously Sold at 10,595).
     

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