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  1. NYCFERRARIS

    NYCFERRARIS Formula 3

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    this might have been discussed before , i am sure but couldn't find it, curious what are the rarest models of factory 308's ...early fiberglass, racing versions, any factory one-offs, show cars?
     
  2. BigTex

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    Yea, it'd have to be a Group4 Micholetto, like Sheehan sold last month, worth over $200K if you need one!

    For us mere mortals, it'd be a dry sump 'glass street car........more like $50K for a clean one.
     
  3. NYCFERRARIS

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    ...just getting a lot of heat from buds who tell me the 308's are too common and all f-cars are movin' up but the 308's gt's ( yeah I heard that same logic about the dino 246 - and that wasn't even considered a "ferrari" at the time). I thought there had to be some "special" 308's out there somewhere. I could care less about the speculation market for these cars or any other car for that matter but the car auctions on cable and inflation talk have gotten everyone crazy about this car speculation market ...deja vu all over again
     
  4. Cenzoooo

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  5. Birdman

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    I have been saying it for years, and so have others....the 308's time will come. Be glad such a fantastic car is so affordable now. They will not be forever. I would LOVE to have a 246 Dino but probably never will--they are growing in value faster than I am growing financially. I will likely never catch up, so they are out of my league. If I had gotten into them 10 years earlier, that might be different. Boxers are going to go the same way shortly. I don't know when, but 308s are going that way at some point. They are not making them anymore and even though they are "common" by Ferrari standards, they are not common at all by car standards. It's still the best looking car Ferrari ever made in many people's opinion, including mine.

    Birdman
     
  6. hardtop

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    If you are talking about build numbers among the regular models, the GTBi is the rarest. However, in the US, I think the QV GTB is the rarest. Seems Magnum PI made evryone want a GTS. I was fortunate enough to own an 85 GTB some years ago. It was a really nice car to drive and look at.

    Dave
     
  7. BigAl

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    308s have been moving up recently....
     
  8. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    The one I own. It is the ONLY 308 that Ferrari built that is owned by me.
     
  9. BigTex

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    It's easy to make a GROSS and mistaken oversimplification on the 308/328 series as they were made over so many years.

    They were made the normal Ferrari way.....a few at a time so when a knowledgable (ahem) overview is made by year it quickly cuts thenumbers down.

    The 1975s were all show cars and prototypes and were glass, along with most of the 1976 production. Cavallino shows about 712 but I recently saw a different number of over 800 or so.

    1976 early steels and 1977 were the LAST year NON CAT, with better cams and easier emissions equipment.

    1978 and 1979 were the start of a slide downhill in power, carbs and CATS, a volatile combination if ignition malfunctions occurred. Many burned.
    That makes them rare.

    1980 - 1983 Early injected cars..low point in horsepower and it's harder to find GTBs, see Magnum PI factor above

    308QV - At last! A little technology rides to the rescue with some horsepower, in response to tanking US sales and customer complaints!

    Then on into the 328s with production ending in 1989 or so with ABS the last technical advancement..

    So yea, there WERE a lot of them made...but never "all at one time". And if you factor in fires, wrecks and normal attrition, they are not too common in my neighborhood!

    IMO it's almost flipped around backwards now, there are plenty of later model cars mainly due to "The Crazy Years" when everypne bought ont and rat holed it for 300% appreciation......LOL! Sorry, ya'll.....

    An early 'glass car - rare in the marketplace, move FAST
    NON CAT - steel, a few more make sure it's a good one and not a pig in lipstick

    78-79 and 80- 83......good cars if maintianed but condition condition condition

    Later on......normal depreciaition cycles apply, have not hit the bottom yet.

    Euro models have a cache and dry sump engine in the early years..NON CAT thru 1980 with carbs...look for proper DOT paperwork etc, and proceed at your own risk.
     
  10. BigTex

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    How's that, my 308 brothers? ROTFLMAO!

    Yea, The World's Fastest Art Car (Cavallino #133) that's a rare one as well Dr. Tommy.......
     
  11. BigAl

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    good one doc.

    I've seen the number 100 mentioned for Euro 308s in the US, if indeed correct, thats not very many, but cetainly not rare.
     
  12. jhsalah

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    Amen, Birdman! Utterly iconic.
    And I hope you're right about the value, 'cause I recently bought one ;-)
    (Though i bought to drive -- no garage queen here.)
     
  13. jhsalah

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    Out of curiosity, I've read repeatedly (on Fchat and elsewhere) that the total 308 run (all years) is in the neighborhood of 12,000 cars, making them supposedly the "most common" Ferrari (which is certainly questionable, as some on this thread have commented). But someone recently told me the numbers on the 360 are far more than 12,000. Can anyone confirm this??

    (I just realized how SILLY of a question that was! Knowing FChat, in a matter of hours if not minutes, someone will respond not only with the total number of 360s but with half a dozen category breakdowns... You guys are amazing...)
     
  14. BigTex

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    I would even pose the position it saved the company.

    Dinos were not received well here in USA without the Prancing Horse, and GT4s were a tough sell as well at the time...

    The 308/328 along with the similar Boxer supercar really kept the cash flow going at a very critical time. recall the teams f1 fortunes of the same years were not spectacular and many popular drivers from that period are DEAD.....

    So back to the 308 discussion.

    100 Euros maybe, when was the last time you saw one For Sale?????
     
  15. BigTex

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    Oh yea, modern producton numbers eclipse any classic car discussion, it's almost the same as them printing money, even with all the b1tchin' you hear about the wait.

    There are more rich folks now than then, see printing money comment above.
     
  16. BigAl

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    there was an indepth thread a while back on F numbers, 'course searching the archives ain't always easy....
     
  17. BigTex

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    Common as dirt....LOL! Look at Ebay and pick your color......
     
  18. NYCFERRARIS

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    I love my 308 at any price...for the car that it is...... not the value it may be in the future. Hate to deflate everyone, but trust me if I own a car ...it never is part of the appreciation frenzy ( kinda like if I am draggin' around a umbrella all day ..it won't rain)

    I don't get these muscle cars...they are not rare at all and the auctions really make a big deal about driving the prices up but the cars sit on used lots and local classifieds at much lower prices....dino 246 are very plentiful by f-car std.s and also underpowerd as well so something else goes on besides rarity like it did in the olden days.

    I am watching some auction on cable ( it was actually car auction re-runs...this is how far this has gotten out of hand) and some detroit muscle car goes well over $100G and I am thinking this is nuts until they say it was a "recreation" or something like that....'cmon, this is nuts....that take a crappy plymouth duster or dodge dart and put in a hemi or such and call it a $100+ muscle car since it was done "correctly with the right period engine"....and guys are fighting over it bidding....help me am I on drugs....what am i missing...i love cars but can't figure this stuff out.....don't even talk to me about "resto-mods" this is all starting to sound like the way they sell real estate to suckers.....feel free to move this thread since I went off topic here...only curious about the rare 308's and found myself caught up in the endless speculators market blab..
     
  19. BigTex

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    Buy art 'cause you like it....does anyone hang ugly pictures on the wall? LOL!

    You have the right attitude, enjoy!

    Nobody is gonna retire on 308 money, trust me on that one....
     
  20. BigAl

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    uh......people do buy Kinkades......(flame suit on) :)
     
  21. BigTex

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    Well, I'm more of a Jay Koka guy myself!

    *laughing*

    But I do have a couple of Meraks thrown in, he did the BMW Art Cars in a cool way....the Warhol M1.....

    I'd take a blank wall with a Reef Girl poster ....over a Kincaide.....LOL!
    Let the light shine on THAT, baby!

    Then there's the signed stuff by Buddy Guy, Dave Alvin, Ronnie Dawson........
     
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    Thread Hijack!


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  23. JTranfield

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    Dare I suggest the 288GTO is the most valuable 308 variation?
     
  24. 4re308

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    I study the Ferrari market constantly. I too have noticed a nice upward trend in the values of all 308s. There will always be a good market for 308s. They are the most recognizable Ferrari ever made. You guys were right on when you said the 308 GTB and GTSs SAVED Ferrari at a crucial point.

    I have owned my 308 GTS QV for almost 6 years, and absolutley LOVED every second in that car. I have no plans to ever sell her. 308s will certainly have their day!
     
  25. sf308

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    Back to the original question. I would say that an early glass dry sump euro car would be the rarest of the 308 street cars. I would need confirmation on this, I beleive 200 where made 180 LHD and only 20 RHD. Can anyone confirm these production numbers? If so, a RHD euro glass dry sump car definately enters the rare car status.
     

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