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Raves, Rants, and Miscellaneous Ramblings

Discussion in 'Other Off Topic Forum' started by maranelloman, Apr 20, 2005.

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  1. rob lay

    rob lay Administrator
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    Dec 1, 2000
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    Rob Lay
    I try hard for the community to be in control and not me for all positive things. I really want this to be a bottom-up run community. However, that also makes it harder for me to suppress the bottom-up negative influence. Impossible to have it both ways. I think it is a more positive environment and "free" to spend time fighting the negative bottom-up influence than working hard to "allow" the positive bottom-up influence to filter through.

    The basis for my philosophy is the community is 99% good and I don't want to restrict that the slightest. 1% is still a pain, but the best formula overall.
     
  2. 2000YELLOW360

    2000YELLOW360 F1 World Champ

    Jun 5, 2001
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    Art
    Rob:

    You've done a great job with the board. What people seem to forget is that MM left on his own, with apparently a big snit (I haven't read his rant, nor do I intend to). If he had issues with you, he could have dropped you a note, or called you, instead he decided to make his rant public in an apparent attempt to embarss you. He could have done that same thing with me, he's got my email address or he could have PM'd me. He didn't do either. Apparently didn't want reasoned discourse, only drama.

    The actions speak for themselves: childish. His friends and followers look at only what they want to see, rather than the entire picture. Guys like Texas Mike are wearing blinders, self imposed from what I can tell.

    Dave:

    That's it, I'm not gloating, but I sure didn't want to see Rob trashed by those folks, he's been right all along, and after this, I'll keep my mouth shut.

    Art
     
  3. rcallahan

    rcallahan F1 Rookie
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    Jul 15, 2002
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    Bob Callahan
    "I will not remove my user ID, as I still like to come here to pick up on tech tidbits, racing lore, and cool pictures (especially the bikini thread)."

    Don't you guys see! MM wants us to communicate through the BIKINI thread!
    Nice going Dave!
     
  4. FarmerDave

    FarmerDave F1 World Champ
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    Jul 26, 2004
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    The garbage some of the most "well respected" users post here is like reading a truck stop bathroom wall. It's funny, and entertaining, but is really Lowest Common Denominatior behavior at its finest.

    If you are wondering whether or not I am talking about you, then I am.
     
  5. darth550

    darth550 Six Time F1 World Champ
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    So, are you're trying to say your pissed?
     
  6. UroTrash

    UroTrash Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 20, 2004
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    Clifford Gunboat
    :(
     
  7. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Dave M.
    Can't be me, I'm not a "well respected" anything.:)

    Art. That's cool. I just don't want what you're trying to say here to get buried under the weight of a "gloating" backlash.

    Darth. You know I try to be even handed. I didn't think Art was doing the right thing, and said so. I speculated that some of the complaining folks here would behave just as badly, or worse, if the tables were turned. I think the history of posts on Fchat gives me plenty of reason to say that the speculation is well founded, don't you?

    Dave
     
  8. BWS550

    BWS550 Wants to be a mod

    Apr 1, 2002
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    BRUCE WELLINGTON

    YOU ARE NOT SHOWING ME ANY LOVE....................
     
  9. matteo

    matteo F1 World Champ

    Aug 1, 2002
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    Heir Butt
    :(
     
  10. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Aug 3, 2002
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    Carbon McCoy
    Whew...! For a second there, i thought you were referring to me, Dave... but then you said:

    ...now i feel better.
     
  11. matteo

    matteo F1 World Champ

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    Like he said, "if you are WONDERING if I am".....

    You're still on the fence, just like the rest of us.
     
  12. mike550

    mike550 Formula Junior

    Aug 20, 2003
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    Rob - you seem to be able to get all over TexasMike on your own.

    Rob, on an overall basis you do a great job with a great forum. Texas Mike, I and many others were very surprised to see you:

    1. Issue a mod room warning about MM
    2. State MMs post count - to try to somehow reduce his contribrution value
    3. Say "Bye Bye please - with sugar on top
    4. "Last thing I need is a bunch of drama queens crying, *****ing, leaving, coming back, leaving, coming back... Just GO!!!"
    5. "When things died down and he needed a little attention, guess what, he came back!"


    Now you are calling for

    Rob, when you are running a business you will have tough issues. The way you handle tough issues is important. Dave leaving F-chat is a blow for the community. Numerous people feel that MM was unfairly banned and the victim of double standards based enforcement. Whether it is because Art threatens legal action or people just don't like MMs or his party affiliation (even though he confined all his posts in question to the "P&R" section) he was singled out. Texas Mike, I and others are disappointed this happened and surprised at how you handled it. Your comments, actions and inactions speak loudly and clearly. Call it fiber, class, dimensions, facets, whatever ever you want. The point is you are showing more dimensions, facets, elements of your style.

    MM was well liked on this board (excluding the usual liberals, Art - TVR - Joel - Asian Bond, etc.) His departure unfortunate - but avoidable. Your reactions very surprising.
     
  13. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    LOL, sorry, i just don't fit the description... :)
     
  14. mike550

    mike550 Formula Junior

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    looking forward to that - now pay your taxes!
     
  15. mike550

    mike550 Formula Junior

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    Can anyone refresh my memory about what happened the last time MM tried to talk to YellowArt on the phone?

    I seem to recall some shaking and scurrying away.
     
  16. matteo

    matteo F1 World Champ

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    No one ever thinks they do.. :)
     
  17. matteo

    matteo F1 World Champ

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    Aug 2004. 5:43pm PDT - from Monterey, Ca

    Partly cloudy. 72 degrees. Slight breeze from the NW @ 3 mph.
     
  18. matteo

    matteo F1 World Champ

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    Or at LEAST his registration.

    Millions on Welfare depend on it.
     
  19. TexasMike

    TexasMike F1 World Champ

    Feb 17, 2005
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    Rob, I WAS planning on subscribing and if the people in S.A. tell me what you say they will, then I may still subscribe. I am publicly responding to your PM and your post since you set such a different tone publicly. You didn't call me scum in my PM but you do it publicly. That's cool, I don't let it bother me because I know you don't know me. I didn't think my post way out of line considering some of the other post I have seen. I guess I am seeing that double standard that some others are also seeing. Is it because I don't know you or is it just because I was talking about you. I was judging your class by the posts you have made. I thought they were of rather poor taste coming from the owner of the sight who's revenue depends on gaining sponsors and users who will frequent those sponsors. Sure you could say that I don't own a Ferrari, so what good am I to your sight but, that not very good for business. You don't know how close I may be to purchasing my first Ferrari. I have been lurking for much longer than I have been a member, so I may know more than you think.
    You publicly called me out early on for what reason I don't know but, you could have told me any problems you had in a PM or email. What are the definitive rules? Are you going to ban me for posting this or are you going to ban me if I refuse to publicly apologize, which you demanded in my PM? You did threaten that I will suffer the consequences if I do not apologize. I am interested to know what the consequences are for not apologizing to you Rob.
    I have never used any profanity or posted any vulgar material.
    I will talk to Dave, Mark and who ever else I meet that knows you this weekend, and if they tell me what you say, I won't have any problem publicly apologizing to you or subscribing to YOUR sight.
     
  20. 512BerlinettaBoxer

    Apr 21, 2005
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    This thread is really funny, someone emailed me on it so I had to take a look.

    You really believe this BS you spout Lay? Your actions are much different and show your true character.

    Yes this is Atheyg, you didn't even have the sac to ban me as you turned my account into a "guest". I recall as you stated in the thread turning my account into "guest" I am nothing but negative and destructive for this site but in reality you couldn't stand my constant references to members to ferrari -talk.com when they asked specific questions well covered on that site. You wanted to keep them on your site and turn them into paying members, you can't stand JRV or anyone that is friends with him such as BigTex aka Speedy308, his site is doing very well BTW and traffic and membership has doubled recently and with soon be implementing a new innovative advertising sponsor plan.

    Concerning the negative and destructive part I had done nothing but help people here for over 2 years and while maybe got into it with Allan Lambo a few times I can't think of anything "distructive" I did here, especially on the level of MM and others that started flame threads on a daily basis, in fact I started many popular threads that brought out very interesting stories such as "Barn find stories" and "The Ferraris that got away" in the vintage section along with many others all over, if thats negative in your book then so be it.


    I see you will be in my town Vegas for the Rampage, hopefully our paths will not cross, I am involved with the Las Vegas Ferrari club here and do participate in the events and have been invited to a special opening event at the Wynn Casino with my Boxer next week. I am not a fake person and if I don't like someone I don't hide it, but I don't want to cause a scene or wreck a good time for others so if I see you at an event I'll try my best to avoid you.
     
  21. darth550

    darth550 Six Time F1 World Champ
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    #96 darth550, Apr 21, 2005
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    I'm not so sure "Scurrying" fits as a descriptive term.
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  22. MarkPDX

    MarkPDX F1 World Champ
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    Apr 21, 2003
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    Not taking any particular side in this but fwiw your account was deleted which is different from a ban. The profile for a "permanently" banned user can still be seen and posts for that user can still be searched. A "permanent" ban can be lifted at any time by a mod or admin. An account that is deleted is gone permenently, there is no profile that can be viewed and although the posts can still be viewed there is no way to search for all the posts made from that account. The "guest" thing seems to be what vB uses for posts that do not have a user account associated, if you look at Gentry's old posts they say guest. I believe that Art's old posts are also listed as "guest" because he quit for a while and asked Rob to delete his account.
     
  23. BWS550

    BWS550 Wants to be a mod

    Apr 1, 2002
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    BRUCE WELLINGTON
    LETS THIS FREAKIN THREAD DIE, GUYS..

    LETS TAKE OFF OUR SKIRTS AND PUT OUR 505 JEANS ON

    LET IT BE......THE POINT WAS MADE AND FULLY TAKEN...

    LET IT GO....................


    BRUCE
     
  24. MarkPDX

    MarkPDX F1 World Champ
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    Apr 21, 2003
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    BRUCE FOR MODERATOR!!!

    I look forward to seeing you all on Saturday.
     
  25. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 10, 2003
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    I wear 550's. More room in the seat for my GIANT ASS.

    I guess that means everyone here wears them. 'cause we're all GIANT ASSES.

    LATER BRUCIE.

    Dave
     

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