READ THIS: Now I know why people hate new generation Mercedes.

Glad to hear you didn't get hurt.

With the continued addition of electrickery, there will continue to be a higher susceptibility to bigger and more complicated problems and accidents.

Interestingly, I recently rallied a benz 280SE - the car was absolutely flawless and even at triple digit speeds it felt solid as a rock and super-reassuring. Try saying that about any of the new cars with steering as responsive as a sopping wet towel.

--Dan

 

BMW > Lexus > Mercedes.

Of course, with my dad:
Lexus > *
If only they made cars for enthusiasts.

 

"Brakes fail, please stop the car immediately"
'That's bad news! How do I stop?'
"I don't know, but the good news is I saved a lot of money by switching to Geico"

 

haha, vraa, nice to see you here as well on CL. (NYLexSC here) Hopefully that LF-A will meet those enthusiasts needs.

 

The E's were recalled for brake failure, no? Was your family's car not taken in?

 

Hopefully, but I remember reading somewhere that that car would only come into production after Toyota wins some kinda F1 race or something...

I personally liked the new gen IS coupe some photoshoppers at CL did

 

I am turning my CLK 55 in on 9/1. I've had it with that car.

I have a box. The box contains parts that fell off the car since June. My Acura TL doesn't command nearly as much respect from onlookers, but all the parts are still attached and it's a better driving car.

Since last month:

1) Battery died for no good reason
2) Inside vanity mirror fell off and onto my fiancee's lap
3) Front trim piece below the grille just fell off

For the money, forget MBZ. I know I'm not the only one who has experienced these issues. I could have pretty much bought anything up to and below an S55 but chose a TL (my first 4 door since my LS430). Great value for the money, although if I had known they had such good lease deals on the slow-selling RL, I would have gotten that instead. I like the whole XM traffic thing and the awd.

RMX

 

Very revealing.

I'm believe your experience 100% and always had doubt about electronic throttle and brake controls.

Since this sounds like a very plausible malfunction, why hasn't it been reported in the press more? Like true accidents caused by this failure. There must be over 100,000 e and s class on the roads with the electronic brake and throttle systems.

Remember what happen to Audi and the 60 minute report?

 

I think my MB has throttle by wire, but not sure about the braking system.

These things are real clunkers IMO. Your mileage may vary, and maybe the more expensive models are built better, but I shouldn't have to spend more than $75k to get a decent car.

RMX

 

You car does have two batteries, one is a consumer battery (all the extra crap, navigation, cd player, heated/cooled seats, keyless go, whatever) and the other is for mechanical purposes (braking hydralyics, starting the car, whatnot)

Whatever your dealer told you, was probably a lie. Your SBC brakes shouldnt' be based of the consumer battery.
That's why Mercedes sucks. They don't even have decent dealers anymore. Don't worry though, they are fixing their act. They are redoing management and what not.

As long as the blind sheep keep buying the cars... they'll still have enough cash to rebuild the company.

 

Did you reboot?

 

The new MB's with "stop by wire" brakes have a hydraulic back up system.

How else did you get stopped if the electrics failed ?

I agree with you that these cars have dropped quality wise dramatically in years gone by......and I can empathize with you about your problems.......

 

Hey Kds, you sell these things, right? Tell the regional rep that a former owner would consider getting another MB product only if they dump the electronics. Make a nice car that runs, not a freaking computer.

 

Hi Erik....

"Used to" is the operative wording.....I left the MB dealer in 2002 after 8 years......I've got my own non-franchised dealership now.

And you can't tell the German's anything......there was a thread on Rennlist about one guys experiences with PAG in management....absolutely hilarious and thought provoking....to say the least !! We used to click our heels and joke about toeing "zee party line" whenever the MB regional reps were in town. They are where they are because of who they are.......and it looks good on them.

 

I know, I deal with them on the other end of the food chain (supplier). I'll tell you some stories over a beer sometime.

Zieg heil!

 

Link??

Sunny

 

Kds: Would you be interested in turning it into a franchise?

 

I thought they had a back up system also. So how did you get it to stop finally?

 

Yes, as KDS said they do. They are forced to by law.

 

That's what I was thinking isn't there an e-brake? (Probably to the left of the brake pedal if it's an auto?)

 

I test drove the new E500 when it came out and truly hated it.
The last great Mercedeses were the 2,5 Evolution and the 1998 S-Klass (with the square headlamps). ///AMG's are OK but horribly overpriced and the CLK DTM and Mclard-Mercedes and ilk are not exactly mass production cars.