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Sorry about your friend I lost a friend in a similar way, but she was only 13

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That's such a tragic story. I'm sorry to hear it.

 

Terrible story. Just throw the guy into the general prison population. He won't last long.

 

They wouldn't put a schitzophrenic (sp?) in with G.P

 

Sad story.

The trial and punishment will be a travesty as he's all set for an insanity plea.

 

Agreed

 

I don't understand insanity pleas.

Murder IS murder. Same charges should apply.

 

^ NO. If the person who did it doesn't know the difference between right and wrong, they need help. They should be locked up in a facility where their problems/needs can be treated. I'm not saying they don't deserve to be locked up but they DO need to be treated specially. Although, the insanity/mentally handicapped etc plea is waaaay over-used

 

Isn't this the same thread that the mods removed from the Texas section a few hours ago? WTF?

 

I have always thought that a lot of murderers wouldn't actually mind dying. It's the easy way out. I would like to see them rot for as long as possible in federal PMIA prison

PMIA is an acronym, short for 'Federal blank me in the blank Prison' statement from Office Space.
So sorry to hear this

 

I am sorry to here about your friend; what a tragic story.


I am anti-death penalty though. Most of the time, cold blooded killers are mentally ill and should be on lock-down and studied for the benefit of the medical community. If the murderer isn't mentally ill, I think reform is possible, though the system doesn't really afford that option.

 

Isn't that the whole point to a "correctional facility"?

You could argue that all crime is the result of a mental, educational, or ethical deficiency, and should be "specially treated", as appropriate. (Yes, the reality is that there are some pretty crappy laws out there which tend to degrade respect for all laws across the board.)

Vengence is an unworthy motive for an enlightened society. Criminals are citizens, too, and if their upbringing didn't prepare them to fit in society, remedial actions are in order.

But we have to walk this line carefully: There is only so much we can do to alter behaviour patterns before we impinge on identity. To modify an individual's behaviour to the point where he loses his identity is merely capital punishment for the squeamish.

The death penalty is an admission of our inability to fit an individual into our society.

Where it comes down to either impinging on identity or exiling the perpetrator to Valhalla, this is a matter where the individual in question should have some choice.

Of course, this would all be contingent on a "corrections system" that has even a pretense of being what it's called. Our prisons have a long, long way to go to get there.

But crime and punishment is never a simple issue. Just where do we draw the line between the rights of the individual and the "needs" of society?

Yes, murder is an obvious one.

But once you start letting politicians determine the "needs" of society, where do you stop them before the pork barrel has priority over the rights of the individual citizen?

And if we can't be sure where to draw that line, then how far do we "condition" people to conform to the "needs" of society?

Is it that we execute murderers because we can't trust our society with the techniques to "reform" criminals?

 

Agreed this scum should burn and then burn in hell, i signed the petition NO 637

 

RIP
No. 640

 

Godspeed Anna, RIP............Petition signed