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Real Ford GT Mk. II unearthed?

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  1. bitzman

    bitzman F1 Rookie
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    One time I saw a picture of P/1011, the Ford GT Mk. II that Hansgen was killed in during practice in April 1966. The car was in two separate halves, located some distance apart. Now according to a story in the current issue of Autoweek, a Tennessee man, Mike Teske, says he found the chassis , which may have been in storage at Lee Holman Jr.'s shop in North Carolina. Back in the Sixties, I heard an old rumor it was buried at LeMans after the accident (which they did with more than one car that wrecked there) but also heard that Holman & Moody was a repository where Ford sent wrecked GT40s to for storage in case there was upcoming litigation. Anybody else heard what happened to that car after it was torn asunder?

    Maybe someone going to Amelia Island where the Ford GT40 is an honored marque this year can ask a Ford GT Mk.II owner.
     
  2. Luke Warmwater

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    Did you get busted using two profiles on the GT40 site and get into some trouble? Doh!
     
  3. kylec

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    One of the Holmans is on the GT chat program
     
  4. bitzman

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    I thought the "air cars" in the Cobra world were unique.
    Now I keep coming across Ford GT40s that mysteriously re-appear and if you go on line
    and try to trace the chassis number, it says the car was destroyed or under a kit car in Australia so I am wondering if re-hulling (that's the phrase they use "hull") GT40s is common and if dozens of the over 100 originals have been re-hulled.

    I expect soon somebody will say they found 110, the 7-liter targa top one that won Sebring in '66 that was rewarded for its efforts by being cut in half, and having a big hole dug for it and shoved in. Actually it might not be too bad, it was aluminum hulled, depends on if there is now a building on top of it. The guy who knew where it was buried died before I could ask him what corner it was at in Los Angeles..
     
  5. boxerman

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    Replicas with provenance, like most of the so called Highh $$$$ value classic race cars today.
     
  6. DenisC

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    Similar story about a GT40 crashed at the Canadian Grand Prix when it was at MontTremblant. Closest I got to an answer is that used exotic car dealer had purchased it and kept it for many years, finaly crushing it after keeping it for too many years as per one of his employees.
     
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  8. bitzman

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    Ford never knew if they would be sued if a car crashed they were racing
    so they shipped the wrecked GT40s to H-M. I was doing some research on GT40s and Lola T70s that had been "destroyed" and now are present on earth again and was dismayed at how many people accept new chassis replacements using the old serial numbers and still consider it the same car. If that was done in the old Ferrari V-12 world that would be controversial. Still, to bolster the replacement argument, Ford's pit boss at LeMans told me he ordered one Ford GT40 thrown into the landfill because he saw the chassis coming apart and didn't consider it safe. So I guess it's a different world once you go away from a tube chassis.

    As for using two names as one F-chatter says, I simply can't remember what code name I signed up for four or five years previously so I start up a dialogue with a new name, no big deal, but I guess to a conspiracy theorist, there's a dark motive in everything.
     
  9. boxerman

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    How many "original" old racing ferraris do you think are still the original car. It s the same in the ferrari world. Maybe an engine block or transmission case remain. Far more old cars than you think have been re-whater as required. Racing cars get chewed up through attrition and use, if you see htem running and running hard then you can assume that many if not most bits from the 50's and 60's have been re'd.

    All these cars are is tool room copies with an old data plate to attach provenanceNS therefor heighten collectability and acceptance in historic events.. One more reason to end the hypocracy and accept recreations, preserving whatr little is left of period builds for posterity.
     

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