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  1. Herbberb

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    Hi Chaps,
    My rear brake calipers are not working and are apparently beyond refurbishing (I shall be looking into this a little closer tomorrow when I get them back home). Assuming I need a new pair does anyone know of a good source as I'm struggling to find a set.

    I had heard that they were shared with a BMW 1802/2002 and that Cardone remanufactured them and are referred to as 19-236?

    Any extra information would be greatly appreciated as otherwise I'm a bit stuck!

    Peter
     
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    Yes,you can use the BMW caliper. These are front brake ATE-calipers for the 1802/2002 series and will need to be spilt and the original spacer installed for clearing the thicker Ferrari-disc. Should be a straight forward job but keep in mind the O-rings.

    Same goes for 19-568. Front ATE-caliper,4-piston 40mm for 1978 BMW 633CSi.

    Quite a bit more reasonable than the OE-calipers ;-)
     
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    Many thanks for the help!
     
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    Brake calipers can be rebuilt. Pistons, o-rings and seals are available via BMW or even F-sources. If you are not into doing the work yourself, take the time to get the correct parts and any good brake shop can do it for you.
    Ken
     
  6. Herbberb

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    Got the calipers back and one is seriously cracked, and apparently junk, whilst the other is fine but with a frozen piston the refurbishers weren't inclined to remove.

    The caliper which had the frozen piston has now been taken apart and is due to be refurbished whilst we look for a replacement other side.

    I also had a set of front springs manufactured, to the exact Ferrari specifications, and have just received those, which frankly was very exciting.

    A classic case of an MOT turning into a full brake and suspension rebuild.

    The excitement of knowing what will crop up next is high..
     
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    #7 staatsof, Aug 26, 2015
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    I'm currently looking for a 19-568 & 19-569 (R&L) pair because I'm changing to thicker, ventilated rotors on another car but over here they are not so easy to find @ rebuilt prices.

    The other option I have is to take the current BMW style ATE calipers and add the spacers, O-rings and a set of new longer assembly bolts. But I have no idea where to find the spacers and bolts?

    The Ferrari parts place listed above wants $40 for the spacers and that's almost the cost for a completely rebuilt caliper so I'm hoping there are other suppliers?
    I've never had one of these calipers split apart but they bolts look a bit specialized as well? Certainly 10.9 stuff?

    Anyone have any ideas on that?

    Thanks.
     
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    Yes but for my non Ferrari purposes I already have the caliper WO any spacer, it's a BMW piece by ATE, on the car with solid rotors and the 19-568 & 569 (also BMW 81 528I and others ... ) are the same caliper W the spacer. It's $60 shipped each from Cardone (a rebuilder here) when you can find them. So that kit makes very little sense for my situation.

    Now if the kit were $40 I might be temped. They are scarce at the moment because Cardone hasn't made a run of them lately.
     
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