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458 Rear Wheel Area Noise - Passenger Side

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  1. hgoodwiniii

    hgoodwiniii Karting
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    Hi all, I am hearing noise in the passenger side rear wheel area of 458. At times, it sounds like grinding and at other times it sounds like clicking. The noise is heard periodically (probably 15 minutes total in the last 150 miles driven), last 5 - 10 minutes and seems to be heard only at low speeds. The rear brake pads are new and look good. Anyone have any suggestions what the problem may be? Thanks.
     
  2. triathgeek

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    Wheel bearing or bad tire?
     
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  3. hgoodwiniii

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    Ok, tires are good; How can I confirm for sure wheel bearing? How tough is it to change? Thanks.
     
  4. FFan5

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    You can usually confirm a wheel bearing by loading and unloading the wheel. You'll hearing the noise when turning one direction and not another.

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  5. hgoodwiniii

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    Ok, so I am being told that you cannot just replace the rear wheel bearing on the 458. The entire hub has to be replaced; Can anyone confirm that? Also, my car has 24,000 miles on it; Can anyone confirm these bearings typically go out in this mileage range or should I be looking to some other issue that would have caused it? Thanks.
     
  6. 707

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    Its clicking right? Could be the brake pad is a tiny bit smaller than the shoe size. When you apply brakes the pads move and you hear the click. Apparently semi common on all models.


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  7. hgoodwiniii

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    I'm actually hearing both either clicking or like a grinding sound. It happens periodically at low speeds for 5 - 10 minutes at a time.
     
  8. hgoodwiniii

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    So I lifted the rear tires of my 458 off the ground today. I am getting some side to side play in the rear tire/caliper/rotor when I move it from side to side on the rear driver side. There is no up/down play on that side when I apply pressure; There is no up to down or side to side play on the passenger side rear tire/caliper/rotor when I apply pressure at all.
     
  9. v35

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    Might be the bearing if there’s play. Take it to your dealership or local independent shop and let us know
     
  10. hgoodwiniii

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    Yes, I just dropped it off. Thanks
     
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  11. hgoodwiniii

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    Ok everyone, the diagnosis is right rear wheel bearing failing and left rear tie rod end failed. The entire hub has to be changed to take care of the wheel bearing. Would these part failures be considered "normal" on a Ferrari with ~24,000 miles on it?
     
  12. tekaefixe

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    Actually no, those closed type bearing should last much longer. No idea what could have cause the failure since they are closed to prevent contamination and don't need to be lubricated. Beats me...

    I think I have the same problem in my car...
    Warranty activated!
     
  13. v35

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    Failed bearing at that mileage isn’t normal but it’s not rare either. Is your car completely stock? No aftermarket wheels?
     
  14. hgoodwiniii

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    Yes, completely stock.
     
  15. hgoodwiniii

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    Has anyone tried replacing the hub DYI or is this a job for the pros? I've replaced them on non-Ferrari cars in the past over the years. However, this appears to be a bit more involved on the 458. Thanks.
     
  16. Sapientoni

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    You'll need a good gear puller and a torch to kill the chemical fixing compound, Releasing the parking brake is also necessary and there's a procedure for that.
     
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  17. Lance F

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  18. Lance F

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    I believe my right rear bearing is failing. Waiting for my mechanic to confirm. I'm told it's very rare on a 458. No play in wheel when jacked up. Groaning road noise that varies with speed and goes away when I veer left.
     
  19. todd cloud

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    My 2013 passenger side rear bearing failed at 14000 miles
    NOT covered by the Power15 warranty
     
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  20. Lance F

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    Mine is a 2012 with 11k miles.
     
  21. Boiler Inspector

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    My '13 Spider has about 54k miles. It did go away when turned one direction. You may have caught yours early as there was definite play in mine that was waaaaay out of tolerance.
     
  22. Lance F

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    Confirmed. My left rear wheel bearing is failing. Expensive set up as the whole hub needs to be replaced as we know.
     
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