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  1. SRT Mike

    SRT Mike Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I know a bunch of guys around my age (late 20s) that use these meds "recreationally". I've heard anything from helping to keep it up when they are drunk, to extended sessions with their partner from these drugs.

    Of course, every doc will say its a serious medicine thats meant for men with a real problem, but would anyone here admit to using it recreationally? Its so easy to get online... might be fun to try it? Is it harmful if used sporadically for purely recreational use?

    I dunno how you say this in a medically acceptable manner, but from what I understand they work by 'enhancing' flow of blood there and restricting it's exit... so if you dont have a problem with that to begin with, can it create too much pressure?? Wouldn't want to have a blow-out ya know? :)
     
  2. UroTrash

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    These drugs help you get erection if you cannot otherwise. It does not enhance a natural erection. Your friends are enjoying the placebo effect.
     
  3. Dcup

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    DAMN, WHERE DO I BUY THIS PALCEBO ??
     
  4. luke9583

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    Check out arginine. It is a non essential amino acid that you can buy very cheaply! It will have a very similar effect :) I reccomend about 2g 3 times a day.
     
  5. SRT Mike

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    I was hoping you would chime in Uro... I was at a party a while back with a guy who told me that when he took one, it "stayed up forever" even after he "finished" and his girlfriend loved it.

    I thought it was the kind of thing where you took the pill, then about an hour later you're he man and it lasts a few hours before it goes down. So thats BS? If so, how come so many guys who don't need these drugs are taking them? A customer of mine works for the company that makes Viagra. He sent me some t-shirts and when I asked if he tried it he said yeah and "it was awesome". Seems so much hype - is it really all BS?
     
  6. UroTrash

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    No, it's for real, but there is a lot of hype surrounding it as well.

    BTW, I never had to deal with a priapism (prolonged painful erection) from any of these drugs, but had to deal with it numerous times related to papaverine/phentolamine or prostoglandinE-1 which are alternative injections vs Viagra.

    BTW-2, last priapism I dealt with was from cocaine use. Most of these young guys are embarrassed and do not come to the ER for 2 days and the vast majority will never get another erection after the priapism due to scaring of the corpora.
     
  7. damcgee

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    What's a corpora?

    [googling out loud]
    definition: The main part of the phallus (clitoris or penis).
     
  8. ^@#&

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    johnny having some performance problems???
     
  9. PP Doc

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    a few months ago they did an article in the Miami Herald about recreational Viagra. They interviewed the (my) chairman of Urology at University of Miami, who stated that not only is it safe, but that some of his residents used it recreationally!
    we have fun in clinic watching to see who steals the samples.

    agree with the senior urologist on this board -- have never seen priapism from oral meds.
     
  10. acehole

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    I took a Viagra pill one time, and it got stuck in my throat. My Neck was stiff for days!

    When I was into bodybuilding, My fitness trainer used to tell me about Arginine and other Amino Acids which increase Nitrogen retenion in your blood vessels, to decrease catabolism through increased nutrition delivery. I think the erection effect you mentioned may be a side effect of this; I used to take it along with 700mg of Tribulus and couldve sworn I was on the blue pill.
     
  11. luke9583

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    Tribulus is another story.... You need to know the Sap content. Most guys take more like 4grams of tribulus now. I think it's more of a placebic affect than anythnig. It gives you the illusion of a puberty growth spurt :) lol. I would never suggest that Arginine helps with protein synthesis. (*because I don't think it does). I think my Girlfreind got more benifit from it than I did :) That's not to say it wasn't fun though!

    Vitamin b6, Choline and HCL are so much more important to building muscle than argine/tribulus. I never understood all the excitement of these 'supplements' :shrug:
     
  12. SRT Mike

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    I know more of the lingo than I thought :)

    A couple years back I had a priapism... I have no clue what the HELL caused it. I woke up, it was up like usual, went to the bathroom... but then it didnt go down. Took shower, but was still up and starting to hurt. Got a little nervous... looked online and saw that its a problem if its more than a few hours... started thinking of most un-sexy things I could, didnt make a difference. Started to think of the horror of going to the emergency room over this... requested little help from GF - didnt help. Then, a couple of hours after it started it was gone, felt fine, never happened again in my life. WTF? I dont do drugs, hadnt been drinking, dont take any medications, had no unusual experiences the night before, etc, etc. Does it just happen sometimes for no reason and then go away? It was one of the damndest experiences of my life!
     
  13. acehole

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    I thought proteins are synthesised from amino acids..

    Arginine doesnt enhance protein synthesis (anabolic), it prevents catabolism (protein breakdown) which in the bigger picture helps muscle tissue repair and heal after every workout. That way you build muscle and not lose it. Ammonia build up in muscle tissue during workout is a major conributor to catabolism. Arginine actually detoxifies the ammonia formed during the nitrogen catabolism of amino acids. Its also the precursor to whole range of other amino acids which aid in the recovery of workout, and yes protein synthesis.

    As for tribulus, i am not quite sure about its overall effect, but im positive that it does stimulate testosterone development for short periods after dosage.. Since your muscles actually grow during your sleep (not when you workout) you take it prior to bedtime.
     
  14. racerx3317

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    I remember reading somewhere that abusing Viagra if you don't really need itcould lead to the hardening to some sort of blood vessels that would cause you to be unable to get any sort of erection at all. Does anyone if there is any truth to this?
     
  15. Ferrariguy2

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    Christ! That sounds pretty scary... at least you didn't have to deal with the emergency room.. lol that would be a tad embarassing!
     
  16. smg2

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    the only thing more embarasing than that. would be the time i was in the hospital for food poisining and a couple was brought in becouse they were stuck together, something about the women going into shock and clamping down. i'm sure one the docs here could correct me, and explain the real reason but it remineded me of when dogs get stuck. it was funny and sad at the same time, horribly embarassing.
     
  17. SRT Mike

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    Here's the best one...

    When I was in the hospital getting x-rays of my ankle after my bike accident, the X-ray tech was a young and pretty hip friendly guy, so I asked about his weirdest/most embarassing situation.

    He told me a guy came in who had "broken his dick"... I forget the medical term but the pee-pee is literally bent over. Well, the guy had some kind of medical bracelet about a drug interaction but for whatever reason they were unable to read/understand it, and the guy said he had some sort of allergy to an anasthetic but couldnt remember the details, so they managed to get a hold of the guys wife, who heard he had a "urinary emergency" and came rushing down, only to find the guy in the hospital with his mistress. The story was that he was going to town and it came out and he didnt realize and thrust forward, hitting a non-penetrable part with a large amount of force, causing the weewee to "break" and appear bent in half.
     
  18. SRT Mike

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    Yeah no kidding! At first I was like "hey honey check this out!" then a while later I was getting worried. I wouldnt have gone to the ER, I would have called a urologist from the phone book and told him I wouldn't do the ER thing and that I needed help :)

    In retrospect its kinda funny but I feel for the guys who have emergencies with it and have to go to the ER.

    Hey URO, if you are still reading this thread whats the story on a broken penis? What actually happens and how does it happen? Is it common? Is it repairable? Any good stories you can tell now that you're no longer in the biz?
     
  19. UroTrash

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    I have repaired several fractured penises. Usually caused by a strong thrust/slip out/drive it into the tent floor(less likely in a soft bed).

    It give a loud crack sound, Immediately hurts and looks like a purple drinking glass.

    It usually is a lateral partially circumferential tear in the corporal covering that is easily repaired with 4 or 5 stitches, after a circumcising incision and a degloving of the skin for exposure. Actually easy, doc looks like a hero.

    Must be treated early as it can lead to impotence if neglected.
     
  20. scott61

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    I heard about all that recreational stuff and I knew someone who took them and asked him for one to try. Did not find that it makes you last any longer, so still had to do that baseball ERA thingy in my head. Did wake up with big pup tent in my bed next morning and had to wait about an hour before I could pee. You want to last for hours? take a couple of percocet or vicodin, They really work for that
     
  21. Bandit

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    Holy crap! I'll be paranoid from now on, thanks.
     
  22. ferrari_jjc

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    This has to be one of the more entertaining threads in a long time.
     
  23. luke9583

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    Correct, it won't enhance protein synthesis :) that's what I said I wouldn't say that it does. I think it would put a hamper on it. I also beleive that it harms your CNS by disrupting your arginine/lysine balance. This is why most people get bad cold sores when using Arginine products.

    The claim that it helps prevent catabolism is based purely on the fact that it is an amino acid. But it is infact a 'non essential amino acid, with a pretty damn large molecular struction. Amino's are require for building proteins, true. An amino acid sequence forms Peptides, then poly peptides and then proteins. But the kicker is, your entire body is proteins (albiet 8% ash and X% fats). Proteins are used for so much more than just building contractile skeletal muscle. They are used for transportation, defense mechanisms (guarding nuclear pores on membranes)... they have a dozen different things they become.

    ARGININE, on the other hand is mostly required for poly peptide chains that ultimately deterimine an emotion. Arginine is usually assembled into tersiary chains in the Hypothalamus if I am not mistaken. It isn't really used for making structural proteins very often..... SUPRISE! :) Check out "Molecules of Emotion" -Dr. Candice Pert
     
  24. luke9583

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    You will never ever ever find an expiriment or any documentation to prove this. :)
     

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